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Catholic Nun Perfectly Explains the Hypocrisy of the "Pro-Life" Argument

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posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.


I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".



Does the mother own the child's body?


The fetus is a growth inside a host.

Not a child until born and independent of host.


You're comparing a fetus to a growth.


It is a growth.

Not a comparison.


A cyst is a growth, a fetus isn't.


Parasite.

You prefer that?


You do. I prefer human being.


A human fetus is the parasite of a human being.


Hahaha! Wow, the picture is becoming clearer.

Racist also call other races parasites.

As I pointed out earlier, this is the exact same argument used to commit genocide, and people on here are cheering it on.


Why don't you take it up with the person who moved the goal posts?

The picture has not changed.




posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.


I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".



Does the mother own the child's body?


The fetus is a growth inside a host.

Not a child until born and independent of host.


You're comparing a fetus to a growth.


It is a growth.

Not a comparison.


A cyst is a growth, a fetus isn't.


Parasite.

You prefer that?


You do. I prefer human being.


A human fetus is the parasite of a human being.


A parasite is of a different species to a host. That's not the case with a fetus.



I know the argument.

Claim is not a parasite because it benefits the species through procreation.

Not everyone agrees.


Parasite is a technical term. You can use it correctly or not. Either way, your usage goes against biology.


As I said, I know the argument.

I've read both sides from scientific points of view.

Some say a parasite is one who nourishes from the host body. That same species doesn't matter.

Scientists do not always agree. That's science.


Why discuss science now? All science would agree that a 9 month term fetus is alive, and yet you feel a woman should be able too terminate it for any reason.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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I'm bored.

Got other things to do.

Carry on.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: JD163
a reply to: Bluntone22

Of course, no sex, no pregnancy.....but you know how it goes,....people do have sex, and having sex is not the same as agreeing to carrying a fetus to term.



Well skydiving is not the same as agreeing to hit the ground at 200 miles and hour but it is known to happen.
There is an undeniable risk.


If you choose to skydive, you accept the risk involved, if you choose to have sex, there is a possibility of pregnancy...and since it is not illegal to terminate a pregnancy (up to a certain stage),....what's your point?
edit on 4-2-2017 by JD163 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Does she own her eggs?



Yes, but an egg is not a child.


Is a fertilized egg a child?


It will be.


Is an egg part of a woman's body? Is a fertilized egg still part of a woman's body? Or, did a chemical reaction somehow magically make that egg separate and not part of her body?



Women are not born with fertilized eggs.


They are born with all their eggs. Do those eggs stop being part of their bodies when they're fertilized?



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.


I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".



Does the mother own the child's body?


The fetus is a growth inside a host.

Not a child until born and independent of host.


You're comparing a fetus to a growth.


It is a growth.

Not a comparison.


A cyst is a growth, a fetus isn't.


Parasite.

You prefer that?

They probably would not. I went with "a symbiotic relationship with a parasitic entity" when I was pregnant with mine, to deliberately get their heckles up. It was fun provoking people over split hairs XD



parasite
noun

1An organism which lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense:

^^ Kinda dead on, even if most don't agree because the benefit for the host is the passing on of genetic material to a new critter. Mama's still giving up nutrients and energy to grow it.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Does she own her eggs?



Yes, but an egg is not a child.


Is a fertilized egg a child?


It will be.


Is an egg part of a woman's body? Is a fertilized egg still part of a woman's body? Or, did a chemical reaction somehow magically make that egg separate and not part of her body?



Women are not born with fertilized eggs.


They are born with all their eggs. Do those eggs stop being part of their bodies when they're fertilized?



Does the genetic material of a man stop being his genetic material when it is in a woman?



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
I'm bored.

Got other things to do.

Carry on.


What? Something more important than advocating the taking of human life?



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:28 PM
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AntiNatalist is the term I was trying to think of. I saw this lady (Elephant Lady) on Tosh.0






posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Does she own her eggs?



Yes, but an egg is not a child.


Is a fertilized egg a child?


It will be.


Is an egg part of a woman's body? Is a fertilized egg still part of a woman's body? Or, did a chemical reaction somehow magically make that egg separate and not part of her body?



Women are not born with fertilized eggs.


They are born with all their eggs. Do those eggs stop being part of their bodies when they're fertilized?



Does the genetic material of a man stop being his genetic material when it is in a woman?

At the risk of both TMI & toeing the T & C line, my husband has said (in humor) every single time that it was a love donation to me, and he doesn't want it back.
So yeah. Once you give it away...



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: Nyiah




^^ Kinda dead on, even if most don't agree because the benefit for the host is the passing on of genetic material to a new critter. Mama's still giving up nutrients and energy to grow it.


Just like a tape worm.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Does she own her eggs?



Yes, but an egg is not a child.


Is a fertilized egg a child?


It will be.


Is an egg part of a woman's body? Is a fertilized egg still part of a woman's body? Or, did a chemical reaction somehow magically make that egg separate and not part of her body?



Women are not born with fertilized eggs.


They are born with all their eggs. Do those eggs stop being part of their bodies when they're fertilized?



Does the genetic material of a man stop being his genetic material when it is in a woman?

At the risk of both TMI & toeing the T & C line, my husband has said (in humor) every single time that it was a love donation to me, and he doesn't want it back.
So yeah. Once you give it away...


Love donation. I might have to use that one.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Nyiah




^^ Kinda dead on, even if most don't agree because the benefit for the host is the passing on of genetic material to a new critter. Mama's still giving up nutrients and energy to grow it.


Just like a tape worm.







posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Nyiah




^^ Kinda dead on, even if most don't agree because the benefit for the host is the passing on of genetic material to a new critter. Mama's still giving up nutrients and energy to grow it.


Just like a tape worm.

Completely OT, but tapeworms used to be a trusted tried and true Victorian weight loss fad. Some folks still do it.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Does she own her eggs?



Yes, but an egg is not a child.


Is a fertilized egg a child?


It will be.


Is an egg part of a woman's body? Is a fertilized egg still part of a woman's body? Or, did a chemical reaction somehow magically make that egg separate and not part of her body?



Women are not born with fertilized eggs.


They are born with all their eggs. Do those eggs stop being part of their bodies when they're fertilized?



Does the genetic material of a man stop being his genetic material when it is in a woman?


It certainly stops being part of his body once it's been expelled, regardless of where it lands.

When does a woman's egg stop being part of her body?
edit on 4-2-2017 by windword because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Does she own her eggs?



Yes, but an egg is not a child.


Is a fertilized egg a child?


It will be.


Is an egg part of a woman's body? Is a fertilized egg still part of a woman's body? Or, did a chemical reaction somehow magically make that egg separate and not part of her body?



Women are not born with fertilized eggs.


They are born with all their eggs. Do those eggs stop being part of their bodies when they're fertilized?



Does the genetic material of a man stop being his genetic material when it is in a woman?


It certainly stops being part of body once it's been expelled, regardless of where it lands.

When does a woman's egg stop being part of her body?


When it becomes its own body, sharing only 50% of the same genes as the mother.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Nyiah




^^ Kinda dead on, even if most don't agree because the benefit for the host is the passing on of genetic material to a new critter. Mama's still giving up nutrients and energy to grow it.


Just like a tape worm.

Completely OT, but tapeworms used to be a trusted tried and true Victorian weight loss fad. Some folks still do it.


I prefer exercise.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope



When it becomes its own body


LOL, and the 1 million dollar question. When is that? When does a fertilized egg separate from its existence as part of the woman's body and become its own person?



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: LesMisanthrope



When it becomes its own body


LOL, and the 1 million dollar question. When is that? When does a fertilized egg separate from its existence as part of the woman's body and become its own person?



When it doesn't have the same genes.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So genes make an egg not part of the woman's body anymore? Does eating a hamburger make my stomach not part of my body anymore, because something foreign is being absorbed and transformed, according to biology?

I say no. Your logic doesn't tract. Adding something to one's body doesn't detract from one's ownership to that part of the body. The fertilized egg doesn't own it's body any more than the it owns the woman's body or the body of the male gene contributor.




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