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Another Travel Ban: IRS Moves To Revoke Passports For Unpaid Taxes

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posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:31 PM
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Looks like an IRS "Travel Ban" will be taking effect later this year as soon as they can get their data straight with the State Department.

If you owe something like $50,000 in back taxes and don't have an acceptable IRS "excuse", the SD will revoke your passport !!

Apparently this applies to everybody !! (equal opportunity taxpayers)

A law was passed in 2015, and the IRS is making their play.

There are some legal remedies however.

See the story.


Another Travel Ban: IRS Moves To Revoke Passports For Unpaid Taxes

President Trump's executive order on travel may be generating big protests, but an IRS missive on travel and passports may not go down too well either. More than a year ago, in H.R.22, Congress gave the IRS a new weapon to collect taxes. Tax code Section 7345 is labeled, “Revocation or Denial of Passport in Case of Certain Tax Delinquencies.” The law isn't limited to criminal tax cases, or even cases where the IRS thinks you are trying to flee. The idea of the law is to use travel as a way to enforce tax collections. It was proposed and rejected in 2012. But by late 2015, Congress passed it and President Obama signed it.

Now, over a year later, the IRS has finally released new details on its website. If you have seriously delinquent tax debt, IRS can notify the State Department. The State Department generally will not issue or renew a passport after receiving certification from the IRS. The IRS has not yet started certifying tax debt to the State Department. The IRS says certifications will begin in early 2017, and the IRS website will be updated to indicate when this process has been implemented.






posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:37 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Nice. Instead of stripping down the tyrannical IRS, Trump is making life harder for people who are already over taxed.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Holy crap. Half of the last administration would be barred from travel! Government workers are going to pay up!

Bet most people don't know this. Some House and Senate members will not be happy either!

www.investors.com...



36 Obama aides owe $833,000 in back taxes

The report finds that thousands of federal employees owe the country more than $3.4 billion in back taxes. That's up 3% in the past year.

The tax offenders include employees of the U.S. Senate who help write the laws imposed on everyone else. They owe $2.1 million. Workers in the House of Representatives owe $8.5 million, Department of Education employees owe $4.3 million and over at Homeland Security, 4,697 workers owe about $37 million. Active duty military members owe more than $100 million.

The Treasury Department, where Obama nominee Tim Geithner had to pay up $42,000 in his own back taxes before being confirmed as secretary, has 1,181 other employees with delinquent taxes totaling $9.3 million.

As usual, the Postal Service, with more than 600,000 workers, has the most offenders (25,640), who also owe the most -- almost $270 million. Veterans Affairs has 11,659 workers owing the IRS $151 million while the Energy Department that was so quick to dish out more than $500 million to the Solyndra folks has 322 employees owing $5 million.

The country's chief law enforcement agency, the Department of Justice, has 2,069 employees who are nearly $17 million behind in taxes. Like Operation Fast and Furious, Attorney General Eric Holder has apparently missed them too.

As with ordinary people, the IRS attempts to negotiate back-tax payment plans with all delinquents, whose names cannot be released. But according to current federal law, the only federal employees who can be fired for not paying taxes are IRS workers.


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posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: xuenchen

Nice. Instead of stripping down the tyrannical IRS, Trump is making life harder for people who are already over taxed.



Well if it's $50,000 it must be the 1%'ers.



Maybe Trumps cuts this off.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

I knew somebody would find that !!




posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: xuenchen

Nice. Instead of stripping down the tyrannical IRS, Trump is making life harder for people who are already over taxed.



Well if it's $50,000 it must be the 1%'ers.



Maybe Trumps cuts this off.



Or Federal workers who have paid taxes in years.... it adds up.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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Boo!! These people who wantonly cheat should be allowed to keep their passports.

They should also be sent to a place, with a sledgehammer ready job, of making big rocks into small rocks.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:49 PM
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Since when does the IRS have authority over travel...

Since over a year ago

That's muy interesante.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: xuenchen

Nice. Instead of stripping down the tyrannical IRS, Trump is making life harder for people who are already over taxed.




It's Obama that did it.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:56 PM
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So looks like Trump won't be going anywhere huh? Just look at how much he owes in back taxes. Oh that's right we can't see his taxes can we?



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: xuenchen

Nice. Instead of stripping down the tyrannical IRS, Trump is making life harder for people who are already over taxed.



So now it is Trump's fault even though the law was passed in 2015 ? I would have sworn Trump became president in 2017.. That sounds like something we heard from Obama for 8 years blaming Bush et al. I have always heard hate can blind people...maybe it can also mess up cognitive and reading abilities too ?



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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Well, it makes sense. And this will presumably affect the rich more than the poor. Getting out of paying taxes does mean that person isn't supporting their country. Sounds like an Obama policy though more than a Trump policy.
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posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Looks like an IRS "Travel Ban" will be taking effect later this year as soon as they can get their data straight with the State Department.

If you owe something like $50,000 in back taxes and don't have an acceptable IRS "excuse", the SD will revoke your passport !!

Apparently this applies to everybody !! (equal opportunity taxpayers)



Yay!...Trump can't travel to Russia to meet Putin anymore.





posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: xuenchen

Nice. Instead of stripping down the tyrannical IRS, Trump is making life harder for people who are already over taxed.



I knew there was a dark reason for that Wall.

Telling the people it's to keep bad hombres out, but, in fact, it's to keep Tax Cheats in.

No escape for Americans.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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Is ok dont plan on returning stateside got far better life and less stress over here .



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
So looks like Trump won't be going anywhere huh? Just look at how much he owes in back taxes. Oh that's right we can't see his taxes can we?


Oh, you know he doesn't owe anything with the carry over negative losses he has had over the years. You and I both know that he probably hasn't had to pay taxes in years due to the legal loopholes.

I highly doubt he owes anything because to be truthful, he utilized every write down to has advantage. I would love to see his tax returns as well. We might learn some tricks... LOL
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posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:27 PM
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wow, looks like some of the 1%ers won`t be able to bug out to their mansions in 3rd world countries when the SHTF.

if I was a liberal I would say that it`s discriminatory against white people since it`s mostly white people who make enough money to have to pay that much in taxes.
in reality a liberal would never say that because it isn`t possible to discriminate against white people,but if a minority has to pay $50 to get a photo I.D. in order to vote well then that`s racist and discriminatory.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:36 PM
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Many Americans living overseas won't be able to return to the US.

That's because the US taxes its citizens on worldwide income, regardless of where they reside, but many living overseas just pay the local taxes there and ignore this detail.

No more passport for them.

Ooops!



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: xuenchen

Nice. Instead of stripping down the tyrannical IRS, Trump is making life harder for people who are already over taxed.



Pffft. Looks like another Obama era law that has been delayed and now people are going to have screaming and crying meltdowns blaming Trump. It'll be real interesting to see how long these little turd laws keep popping to the surface and getting blamed on Trump.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

There's still quite a few average people that could owe that much in taxes also. All it takes is getting penalties for a few years and you're caught in debt spiral that you can't get out of that could easily reach $50,000.



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