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Penalty for ABORTION(?)
originally posted by: redoubt
Penalty for ABORTION(?)
Think of it this way; if there is a traffic accident and a woman loses the child she carried, the other driver can... and often is, charged with murder.
That the state allows abortion and then applies this approach other events where an unborn is lost, is simply ridiculous, contrary to logic and above all, entirely ludicrous.
Life begins at conception
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest
Why should it be illegal if there is no soul in it? You can say it has the potential to be a living, breathing being, but if this is your current stance I see no justification for making it illegal at 22 weeks or even 37 weeks. Am I not understanding your position appropriately? I mean people like to over complicate this issue, when its really not a complicated issue. Either, it is a life and you cannot kill it or it isn't a life and you can do whatever you want to it. Your position, from my understanding, seems to be that lungs making contact with oxygen is crucial for a soul, and therefore crucial for right to life.
Why should someone accept that the phrase "breath of life" is an idiom for the soul, and yet focus so directly on the literal action of breathing of oxygen? I know this may seem like a silly question, but from your view couldn't I keep God from giving a baby a soul by simply not allowing oxygen to enter its lungs after its exited the birth canal ?
If that point is indeed 22 weeks, then abortion past 22 weeks should be illegal, since the fetus is capable of experiencing birth (soul imputation).
Am I really to believe that God's love for a human only extends to the stage of development its lungs are at? Or am I to believe that the fetus is not human? Both just seem outrageous to me.
I believe the Holy Spirit revealed the Word to men, and inspired them document it accurately without overriding their personal writing/poetic styles. Therefore, I view the Word of God as infallible. Auto-writing is probably a sign of demon possession.
f Adam wasn't alive until being given the breath of life, AFTER the formation of his body....
If Israel is not resurrected until being given the breath of life, AFTER the formation of her body...
If we are BORN AGAIN, not CONCEIVED AGAIN....
Why would God deviate from His specially crafted theme to put a soul in a fetus while in the womb? Show me what the spiritual lesson would be behind 'life at conception'. edit on 10-2-2017 by BELIEVERpriest because: typos
Again I take this to be the authors writing within their frame of knowledge, just as paul does in the verses about the head covering when he makes a subtle reference to the work of Hippocrates.
5“Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones, ‘Behold, I will cause breath to enter you that you may come to life. 6‘I will put sinews on you, make flesh grow back on you, cover you with skin and put breath in you that you may come alive; and you will know that I am the LORD.’”
7So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to its bone. 8And I looked, and behold, sinews were on them, and flesh grew and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them. 9Then He said to me, “Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they come to life.”’”
Text What do you think should be the penalty for abortion???
Texta reply to: Seede You're familiar with Judaism. What is the traditional Jewish perspective?
The sperm entering the egg is the gospel entering the soul of a person. Its the same as the seed being sown in the soil. Some soil is welcoming, some soil is hostile. I forgot where that parable is located in the Gospels. The word for spirit is ruahh or pneuma. Both carry the connotation of breath or wind, so its not until one is born again that the spirit enters.