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originally posted by: Grambler
Does anyone remember this thread?
It was a NLBS episode where they argued that right wing terrorism was more of a threat then Islamic or other forms.
The crux of this episode had to do with a report by a man named Arie Perliger, that listed examples of "right wing terrorism?. As a showed on page 29 of that thread, he includes all examples of right wing terrorism as.
The dataset documents all violent attacks that: (1) were perpetrated by groups or individuals affiliated with far-right associations; and/or (2) were intended to promote ideas compatible with far-right ideology, based on the ideological analysis presented in the first part of this study
Based on this study, Arie and NLBS argued that right wing terrorism was more of a threat than Islamic or left wing terrorism.
When people in the thread pointed out the violence of BLM and other groups, ATS people assured us that they were working on an episode or thread about that violence, but I have yet to see that.
So using Mr. Perlingers definition of violence by groups affiliated with ideologies, now that we see all of these riots in the name of left wing ideology, my question is do the people at NLBS or ATS still feel that right wing terrorism is the biggest threat?
Just last night we had the nice tolerant folks at UC Berkely riot, beat Trump supporters, and destroy Millions of dollars in property and shut main streets down all in the name of silencing free speech from a conservative. We have seen these riots at the inauguration. We have seen violence shut down conservative speech time and time again on campuses. We have seen BLM leftists groups riot and call for dead cops (which have in turn been killed).
I am not arguing that there are nuts on all sides of the political aisle. But it seems to me there are FAR more people on the extreme left willing to engage in terrorist or violent behavior to get their point across. Can anyone show me even one example of thousands of right wing people rioting to stop a liberal speech?
I think the people that run ATS do a great job, and I liked NLBS. This thread is not intended to attack these people, only to ask them in a serious fashion if they have changed their mind about right wing terrorism being a bigger threat than the left given the riots we have seen recently.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: neo96
White pan-nationalism isn't an American, Canadian, British, etc phenomenon — it's a right-wing political movement that exists in dozens of countries. (which is why it should properly be called "white pan-nationalism")
Much like how the alt-right and support for Trump aren't exclusively American phenomena.
How many of the die hard Trump supporting posters on ATS aren't American? Would you argue that you're not to some degree politically aligned with these folks because they're not Americans?
And that's not to mention the fact that the impetus for this thread was the shutdown of Milo Yiannopoulos's speaking engagement at UC Berkely. Milo being a Brit who is also a prominent Donald Trump supporter and somebody I'm sure you feel a political kinship with.
But when it comes to a Canadian Trump supporting white pan-nationalist, "Oh no! That's CANADA! Got nothin' to do with the American right-wing!"
Where I am responsible for my own posts.
Ip so facto I am responsible for my own actions.
Not some one else's.
That was exactly the point I was trying to make, thank you.
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute
The narrative being pushed will be for those who are quick to label others as terrorists. If you're looking to divide people, exploiting that is the easiest way to go.