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Trump taps evangelist Jerry Falwell Jr. to lead higher education task force

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posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: SolAquarius
a reply to: WhateverYouSay
I'm not a fan of fundamentalist Christians but they are kittens compared to fundamentalist Muslims. I would rather be told Im going hell then have my head chopped off or worse.

Fundamentalist Christians are more insidious. They lobby the government to go to war and blow up villages of people over their lunacies. But then there are plenty that still do it the old fashioned way. Just look at abortion bombings.




posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 08:15 AM
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This new type of Christianity that seemed to take over starting the late 70's, is all about Israel. They won't do good things with all this power they have now. They won't be sated til americans die for Israel, they have the supreme court, roe v wade is rescinded, and obamacare is renamed. The economy and national security they said they wanted from Trump were lies. Real bad times are headed our way.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 08:20 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
Daily Mail

President Donald Trump has tapped Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. to lead a White House task force on improving higher education.
Falwell, one of the country's most prominent evangelical leaders, endorsed Trump in January 2016, just days before the Iowa caucuses, which were the first votes cast in the presidential election cycle.


It is becoming apparent to me that President Trump is simply going to push every right wing idea including the bad ones. His administration has shown hostility toward climate scientists and the dissemination of their data. He has spoken out against vaccines. Now he's appointing someone who denies the very basis of biology to a "higher education task force". Creationism has no basis in fact. It is a modern religious fairy tale spun in the hopes of continuing to capitalize on the ignorance and superstition of religious peoples. This guy has no business directing any such task force.




No religious test for refugees that want to enter the usa, but a religious test for government employment is ok?

Somehow that seems out of place.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Correct. Here is a quite prophetic article from 1981. What the author couldn't foresee was the rise in technology that made the religious right more accessible as the Republican Party would give it increasing power.

Assessing the Concerns of the Religious Right

Here he calls out Falwell, Sr.


Finally, there is an authoritarian tendency in religion which meshes well with authoritarian secular structures and with rigid prescriptions for living. Jerry Falwell, leader of the Moral Majority, says in his recent book Listen America that "the Bible is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc." That "etc." is his, and it covers a lot of ground. I have seen a Falwell quotation that takes back a little of that, but in interviews he has a way of bending.


The GOP used this voting block to gain power, and this religious block used it to gain more power for their various brands of religion. ..... something interesting, it used to be Southern Baptists and Catholics were at odds, to the point of hatred. The only thing that united them by the mid 1980s was the issue of abortion. So, the GOP had a unified voting block for decades.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 08:47 AM
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Back to Jr. It now seems that after selling his soul, he has now sold his body to Trump.

Liberty University Alumni Express Concerns About Falwell After ‘Soul Selling’ Trump Endorsement



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Isn't this like hiring a serial killer for the parole board?



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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"In God We Trust" first appeared on U.S. coins in 1864 and has appeared on paper currency since 1957. A law passed in a Joint Resolution by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by President Dwight Eisenhower on July 30, 1956 declared IN GOD WE TRUST must appear on currency.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:03 AM
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Five References to God in the Declaration of Independence

Jul 4, 2011 | Constitution |


By Dr. Harold Pease

It always amazes me when otherwise intelligent people are unable to find evidence of God in our governing documents. The Declaration of Independence, the signing of which we commemorate July 4th, alone has five references to God—two in the first paragraph, one in the middle, and two in the last.

“When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.” Who is responsible for “the laws of nature” but God—certainly not man nor nature itself? From the “laws of nature” sprang an awareness of natural law (sometimes called common sense), understood by early philosophers to be a source of higher law that never changes. This was best explained by Cicero, a Roman politician, as early as the 1st Century B. C. —even predating the existence of Christianity when he wrote: “Nor may any other law override it, nor may it be repealed as a whole or in part… Nor is it one thing at Rome and another at Athens, one thing today and another tomorrow, but one eternal and unalterable law, that binds all nations forever.” Of “Nature’s God,” the second reference to deity is, of course, more explicit and needs no explanation.

The third reference to God is the word “creator” found in the second paragraph. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” This boldly identified our base for at least three unalienable rights as God, and the Founders identified this truth as self-evident. Any person endowed with common sense or reason would/could come to this conclusion.

So passionate were they with respect to these three “God-given rights” that such was identified as the purpose of government. “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…”

Moreover, their right of revolution hinged upon the denial of these “God-given rights.” “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes… But when a long train of abuses and usurpations… evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government and to provide new Guards for their future security.” Once again, an appeal to natural law, which emanates from God, was noted and the loss of which always justifies revolution.

The fourth and fifth references to God are found in the last paragraph. The rightness of our cause was left to God as judge. “We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown…”

The fifth and last reference to God asks for his divine protection in our revolutionary course of action. “And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.”
There was no dissent noted with respect to these references to God and their placement or emphasis in this document by any of the participants then, nor should there be now.

Dr. Harold Pease is an expert on the United States Constitution. He has dedicated his career to studying the writings of the Founding Fathers and applying that knowledge to current events. He has taught history and political science from this perspective for over 25 years at Taft College



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: buster2010
Perhaps someone should sit Trump down and explain to him what higher education is and why appointing someone from a fake university to run it is a bad idea.


Donald Trump designed a "fake" University, and the publicity from it helped him become President of the United States.

Things work in reverse now, LOL.

Well at least you finally admitted he's nothing but a con man.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: TruMcCarthy

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
Yeah, Christians have no place in government, only atheists should be allowed to hold government positions.

Sounds like a winner to me. Throw all the religious nuts out of government. The government would work a lot better if science ran the government instead of religious fantasy.


Yeah, I'm sure that Technocracy will work out well for you, a perfect utopia I'm sure. Let's just hope they don't find you and your family to be intellectually inferior, or they just might snuff you out of existence, you know, to make way for a more superior race of human. Hmm, sounds somewhat familiar...

Yeah that would be a real shame. Donnie's voting base would be gone overnight.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

Christianity has no place in government! Neither does Islam, Judaism, Hindu, Shinto, Atheism, et al...

Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc etc all have a place in government should to people elect them. The government needs to be diverse because the country is diverse. To attempt anything otherwise is just another example of a time when people need some remedial history lessons.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Religion doesn't belong in a class room.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: shooterbrody

Religion doesn't belong in a class room.


Very True.


I am a Christian and learn toward the right. But I recognize religion and politics do not mix. Nor does Religion and the class room.

Religion and spirituality or lack of should be solely left down to the individual.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

And that has to do with this govt appointed task force how?

Also are teachers now to be given the religion test?



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: pwrthtbe
"In God We Trust" first appeared on U.S. coins in 1864 and has appeared on paper currency since 1957. A law passed in a Joint Resolution by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by President Dwight Eisenhower on July 30, 1956 declared IN GOD WE TRUST must appear on currency.


That's because money is America's "god".

The Founding Fathers, on the other hand were mostly deists, and were careful to mention "Nature's God", rather than any religious or biblical god, that is unless you want to consider the Founding Fathers were Wiccan.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
Daily Mail

President Donald Trump has tapped Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. to lead a White House task force on improving higher education.
Falwell, one of the country's most prominent evangelical leaders, endorsed Trump in January 2016, just days before the Iowa caucuses, which were the first votes cast in the presidential election cycle.


It is becoming apparent to me that President Trump is simply going to push every right wing idea including the bad ones. His administration has shown hostility toward climate scientists and the dissemination of their data. He has spoken out against vaccines. Now he's appointing someone who denies the very basis of biology to a "higher education task force". Creationism has no basis in fact. It is a modern religious fairy tale spun in the hopes of continuing to capitalize on the ignorance and superstition of religious peoples. This guy has no business directing any such task force.



His appointees are largely a joke relative to the position. It's ridiculous.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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Well, another campaign promise to be done....

Trump vows to 'totally destroy' rule imposing political limits on churches

America did not want to be a New Europe. The govt was not to establish a religion or favor one. Jefferson wanted "a wall of separation between church and State." Pastors certainly can have political beliefs and favor a candidate, they just can't make political speeches from the pulpit endorsing a candidate, or turn churches into political action committees, if they want to be considered tax exempt. (Johnson Amendment).

Churches will now become the newest sources of money for politicians. And church members would be well advised to go along with their pastor; here comes the political vetting, the political test, of church members!


For those Americans who want more....religious influence on American politics, the repeal of the Johnson Amendment is the perfect campaign promise: a guarantee of increased political power, greater freedom of speech, and more control over political dollars for groups that widely feel their electoral influence slipping.

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posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 12:34 PM
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Hey folks, this ain't a "but the Muslims" or "Christians are evil" or "Jews control the world" or whatever crap people wanna beat each other over the head with.

Argue over your silly fairy tales and archaic stone-age philosophy elsewhere.

I don't want ANY religion taught in schools as a replacement for scientific data and observations.

We live in a day and age where people are questioning facts we've had for 2000 years, like whether the effing Earth is round, or much later when it was discovered that the Earth wasn't the center of the universe. Knowledge has always been the enemy of superstition and fairy tales. It still is today as we watch a creationist get put in charge of a task force to "improve" higher education.

I don't feel like I wasted my vote on Trump, YET. So far he's done a lot of things I agree with. But his hostility toward scientists and the data they produce, coupled with a religious fundamentalist appointment for an office directly involved in higher education, doesn't sit right with me.



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 01:04 PM
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This guy has no business directing any such task force.

From your mouth to God's ear projectvxn

:-)

I thought this was from the Onion. How much more crazy are we supposed to absorb? It's only week 2



posted on Feb, 2 2017 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

Simply because they don't believe your particular version of religion doesn't make them atheists.




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