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Experts: California voter registration system 'highly susceptible' to fraud

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posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:03 PM
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Here we have it...fraud could easily be committed by illegal aliens at polls in California if they chose to do so...




 “If you are talking about California, the state is apparently relying on the illegal alien to tell the state they shouldn’t be registered. There is still an honor system,” said von Spakovsky, co-author of the book “Who's Counting? How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk.”

The problem with California is there is no separate verification of citizenship on voter registration, said Charles Bell, Jr., a partner with California-based Bell, McAndrews & Hiltachk, LLP, a law firm that specializes in election law. Applicants can check a box affirming they are citizens, and this is not checked against any other government database such as federal immigration records



www.foxnews.com...


Of course there is no way to check now, but it certainly lends credence to President Trump's claims that illegals voted en masse in California. I'm quite certain all illegal aliens are patently honest folks.




posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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Well people.

When one particular party in California hasn't lost a race in decades ?

There is only one answer.



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Well, libs do seem to congregate there. I have done work from San Diego to San Jose and many places in between and I could vouch for that.



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

They made it too obvious last go round when CLinton got more votes than Obama did.



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:16 PM
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(CNN) California Secretary of State Alex Padilla has labeled President Donald Trump's unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud "dangerous." Padilla said Wednesday that creating doubt about America's free and fair election is "taking a jackhammer to the bedrock of our democracy."


What are they scared of finding?

You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today. Abraham Lincoln

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posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:20 PM
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What are they scared of finding?


That Trump critics can't win a honest election without cheating.



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:21 PM
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So the system might be susceptible to fraud but there's no actual evidence of fraud?



All systems might be susceptible to fraud.


Who is this Hans Von Spakovsky chap?


However, von Spakovsky's nomination was opposed by Senate Democrats, who argued that his oversight of voter laws was unacceptably partisan and that he had consistently acted to disenfranchise poor and minority voters.[2][3] Opposition to the nomination was bolstered by objections from career Justice Department staff, who accused von Spakovsky of politicizing his nominally non-partisan office to an unprecedented degree.

While von Spakovsky and the Bush Administration denied the accusations of partisanship, the nomination was withdrawn on May 15, 2008.[5] Von Spakovsky subsequently joined the staff of the Heritage Foundation, a politically conservative think tank.



Yeah. Sorry OP, this doesn't sound super convincing. Your fella Spakovsky has an axe to grind, until he comes up with some actual evidence, he's just spinning yarns.



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:22 PM
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And Spakovsky has past form for inventing stories:


Von Spakovsky has claimed that about 1400 votes, four times the margin of victory, were cast by ineligible prisoners in the 2008 Minnesota race for U.S. Senate, which was won by Al Franken.[17]However, Von Spakovsky's statistics have been labeled "fraudulent" by the Hennepin County Attorney who investigated the matter.[18]



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

Do you have sources to substantiate your claims?

All I see is a poor copy paste job



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

Didn't read the article...did ya?



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:26 PM
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You don't need to be an expert to figure that one out. Just some common sense.



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:29 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Painterz

Do you have sources to substantiate your claims?

All I see is a poor copy paste job



It's all in the Wikipedia article about him, you can click over to there and read the sources yourself if you wish.



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz
So the system might be susceptible to fraud but there's no actual evidence of fraud?



The system is set up to not produce any evidence. It would take an investigation to uncover evidence of fraud.

If they don't verify to see whether a registrant is a citizen, or not, then they have no evidence that they are or aren't.

Geez.



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

Thanks for posting this. I'm a native Californian and we have been fraudulently taken over by the left. We need a federal task force to audit the voter registration and remove the illegal alien and dead voters. It's the only way for those of us who want small government to have a chance that our vote will count. Especially when our big government left now says they want to make the whole state a sanctuary.

When an illegal alien gets a drivers license here, if they don't answer the question about being a citizen, the default is to register them to vote! If they do answer and say "No", they get a card in the mail asking if they are really sure that they aren't. The left has set-up this corruption so that it cannot fail. S.O.S. ... _ _ _ ...



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Painterz
So the system might be susceptible to fraud but there's no actual evidence of fraud?



The system is set up to not produce any evidence. It would take an investigation to uncover evidence of fraud.

If they don't verify to see whether a registrant is a citizen, or not, then they have no evidence that they are or aren't.

Geez.




I'm disinclined to believe any assertions made by this Von Spakovsky chap.


But sure let's have a thorough investigation into potential voter fraud, it's an important issue, it should be looked into. Even though there's no evidence beyond Trump saying so.



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

smoke and flames ----- fire

shooting victim / bullet ----- gun

extra votes in Detroit ----- fraud





posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Painterz

Didn't read the article...did ya?


you're taking some member's job security here at this rate. but you've got a bright future a.. great Post!



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:47 PM
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When an illegal alien gets a drivers license here, if they don't answer the question about being a citizen, the default is to register them to vote! If they do answer and say "No", they get a card in the mail asking if they are really sure that they aren't. The left has set-up this corruption so that it cannot fail. S.O.S. ... _ _ _ ...


Sounds like the system needs some work.



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

Welcome to California. One of the top 5 most corrupt states in America.

Why am I not surprised?



posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 06:49 PM
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However, von Spakovsky's nomination was opposed by Senate Democrats, who argued that his oversight of voter laws was unacceptably partisan and that he had consistently acted to disenfranchise poor and minority voters.[2][3] Opposition to the nomination was bolstered by objections from career Justice Department staff, who accused von Spakovsky of politicizing his nominally non-partisan office to an unprecedented degree.


Care to state what his oversight of voter laws entailed? If it is an argument about how people need to have an ID to vote, well I agree with him. It is stupid not to need that.



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