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First Real Crisis for Trump: Russia Attacked Ukraine

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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:22 PM
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##snipped## Trump has created a mess domestically by plodding his inept dictatorial edicts on the US. As sad as this is for domestic issues, the bigger issue became a larger problem today. Russia attacked Ukraine.......right on queue ##snipped##

Now comes the real test. As hostilities grow and Russia moves to gobble up a part of Ukraine, how is he going to maneuver to protect our ally. NATO most likely called today to see if we're going to stand with them.

Here's where it gets real for Trump. We will have allies dying in this conflict so what is comrade Trump going to do to help our allies? Nothing is not a good enough answer and will most likely be rejected by our allies. With what Trump has done in the last 2 weeks, I have zero confidence that he'll be able to be the "master negotiator" he claims to be to stop the fighting. It's go time and he needs to resolve this issue whether he likes it or not.

www.cnn.com...
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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:25 PM
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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:29 PM
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Why do I get the feeling that we're going to wake up one morning to find out that the world ended while we were sleeping?



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:31 PM
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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:32 PM
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Because we had less than half the country that has been listening to right wing propaganda for decades that have lead us to become a "flawed democracy."



originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
Why do I get the feeling that we're going to wake up one morning to find out that the world ended while we were sleeping?



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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:33 PM
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Ukraine is not, and never has been, an American ally. There is no defence treaty of any kind between the US and Ukraine

That disinformation campaign around Ukraine really is successful.

I also don't think it's a good idea for America to come to the aid of folks like this:



Maybe Trump should send aid to the Anti-Fascist Resistance in Donbass, just to rile up the warmongers even more?
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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: SeekingAlpha


between pro-Russian rebels and Ukrainian armed forces is escalating, officials have warned.


Did you not read the first sentence in your own source? Why does "pro Russian rebels" mean Putin attacks Ukraine?



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: SeekingAlpha

I know. About 36% of the eligible voters voted for Trump. And now he's at a 36% approval rating.
Hmmm...


"Get em outta here"


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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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Let's see, the end of the human race or let the Russians have the Ukraine. Hmmmmm, what to do????



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:36 PM
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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: SeekingAlpha

I hope those Monsanto crops get wasted!

Globalist agriculture cartel pillages Ukraine as IMF and World Bank wage war to expand Monsanto's GMO empire

Learn more: www.naturalnews.com...


(NaturalNews) Is it possible that the conflict in Ukraine is really just a front for a Monsanto land grab? Before Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was forcibly removed from office, he had repeatedly rejected agreements and loan packages from international financial institutions such as the World Bank and the IMF, which padded their deals with conditions that included loosening regulations for Ukraine's agricultural sector. When Ukraine's pro-Western government was placed in office following the 2014 Maidan Revolution, these previously tabled aid packages were suddenly back on the table. One such aid deal was a $3.5 billion package, financed by the World Bank, which imposed neoliberal conditions on Ukraine as a precondition for lending the nation money.

Specifically, the World Bank essentially required Ukraine to curtail its own sovereignty by "removing restrictions that hinder competition and by limiting the role of state 'control' in economic activities." You might be wondering, what does all of this has to do with the current tension between Ukraine and Russia? Put simply, former President Yanukovych did not bend to World Bank and IMF standards. Rather than cave in to EU conditions, he accepted a Russian aid package, proving that his loyalty to Russia was stronger than his allegiance to the EU and its vision of a corporate-friendly Ukraine. As a result, he was booted out of office, and a pro-EU government was swiftly put in place. The new government wasted no time bringing in foreign investment, which, according to the Oakland Institute, is "likely to result in further expansion of large-scale acquisitions of agricultural land by foreign companies and further corporatization of agriculture in the country."


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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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Fake News! Hoax! lies!

Russia didn`t attack the Ukraine.

This from the Op`s source:



Fighting in eastern Ukraine between pro-Russian rebels and Ukrainian armed forces is escalating, officials have warned.

It said Ukrainian troops "continue to conduct offensive operations to seize positions held by self-defense forces, including in the suburbs of Donetsk

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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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Why would anyone want Trump to carry out Hillary's plans to go to war with Putin?

Did we elect Hillary?

And the source? Trump's already let everyone know that CNN is Fake News.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
Why do I get the feeling that we're going to wake up one morning to find out that the world ended while we were sleeping?


Because the make-believe liberal world is literally crumbling before our eyes.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:40 PM
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Would you be saying the same thing if Clinton was president?

The reality is that Obama had a very good foreign policy. Despite Putin's repeated attempts of trying to grab more of Europe, Obama stopped him and also saved lives.

Now that Obama is not president, 8 Ukrainians died today from Russian hostilities and you know Putin is going to put the pressure on Ukraine now that Obama is not there.

Trump will most likely give Putin a call and ask him to stop for Trump's sake. Putin will just tell him to STFU and continue to grab that land. Checkmate right wingers.





originally posted by: dfnj2015
Let's see, the end of the human race or let the Russians have the Ukraine. Hmmmmm, what to do????


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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:40 PM
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Is the OP some form of propagandist?

The article he lists explicitly says the Kiev Regime Forces attacked the Rebels, and the OP puts a title saying "Russia attacked Ukraine"

?????

How dishonest. Absolutely shameful display, OP.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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These pro-russian rebels are in the russian army and supported by Russia.



originally posted by: FauxMulder
a reply to: SeekingAlpha


between pro-Russian rebels and Ukrainian armed forces is escalating, officials have warned.


Did you not read the first sentence in your own source? Why does "pro Russian rebels" mean Putin attacks Ukraine?



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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Yes, needs to be in the hoax bin. I clicked thinking Russia had attacked Ukraine. NOPE




posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
Is the OP some form of propagandist?

The article he lists explicitly says the Kiev Regime Forces attacked the Rebels, and the OP puts a title saying "Russia attacked Ukraine"

?????

How dishonest. Absolutely shameful display, OP.


I thought to defend the poster given the fact that he used an MSM source at least, but the story doesn't line up with the OP.




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