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Teacher Forced Out for Using Confederate Flag in Civil War History Lesson

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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 03:53 PM
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“He’s personally my favorite teacher in the whole school,” Ana Kneisely told CBS Sacramento, in reference to a middle school American History teacher, Woody Hart, in Rancho Cordova, California, who was forced to retire by the Board of Education.

Hart, a 70-year-old teacher at Suttle Middle School of the Folsom Cordova United School District, was ousted after using a Confederate battle flag, along with a period United States flag, as part of a lesson on the U.S. Civil War. The school’s superintendent, Deborah Bettencourt, released a statement late last week that the board of education had “accepted this Sutter Middle School teacher’s retirement ... and he will not be returning to school this year.”

Teacher Forced Out for Using Confederate Flag in Civil War History Lesson


I thought history was one topic that would be safe from the politically correct police. This story is so bizarre that it makes me wonder if the flag was a pretext for removing an employee that some may have felt was too old.

I would say this story gives a new meaning to the saying "history is written by the winners." It may need to be updated to "history is mangled by the majority party." Now that I think about it, the latter is basically a better description of what's really happening with the former.

Where is all this headed? I never would have imagined the politically correct police trying to change the way history is taught.
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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

Nauseating.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

Teacher was an idiot.

Didn't he know that the flag is banned!

/sarc

Now I'm off to weep for the future of the next generation that will only know history through memes generated through a censor-filter from Facebook.


"Fahrenheit 451" is not far away if the idiots get their way.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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When we start rewriting history all is lost.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

simply pathetic, I just don't get it..



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 04:00 PM
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This is what happens when you don't think. You are not free when you are school teacher.

If you want to pull something like this make sure the admin is on board (in writing).

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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

Well the majority of voters in Sacramento County are white Democrats, and they often like to virtue signal by getting rid of anything they think might offend somebody, anybody, anywhere so I mean....why are we so shocked?



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

That bit of cloth was colored 'wrong'...



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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So this teacher was fired for using historical items to illustrate his lesson, but I'm sure the protesting pre-school teacher I saw a video of this morning who advocated killing people and taking their houses and money won't even get a slap on the wrist.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 04:51 PM
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really bizarre ,
trying to teach civil war history without a confederate flag is like trying to teach civil war history without mentioning secession.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

we want all the immigrants to stay ... just not in my neighborhood.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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This makes me wonder what if a member uses that flag as an avatar.
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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: Trueman

u first



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

If that is all there was to it, then it is outrageous. It would be crossing the line between acceptable teaching and overreaching and vague school policies.

However, I can only find this on small right wing sources. Fox news has a small blurb they pulled from Heatstreet.

I am thinking there is a little more to it.


edit on 31-1-2017 by reldra because: (no reason given)


It seems the first complaint was in November. There was a complaint. The school is obligate to investigate complaints. The complaint was about this:


While the class graded a test during an 8th grade American History class at Sutter Middle School, a student asked the teacher to give an example of equality.According to Tyrie and Victoria McIntyre, whose 13-year-old son Tyler was in the class, the teacher said, “When you hang one black person, you’d have to hang them all. That is equality.”


The teacher was questioned and he gave the context of the answer. I believe him and his answer was good. But, at that time, he was directed to use more 'appropriate examples and strategies'. The school district has policies for teachers. The complaining parents wanted him fired, which he was not.

Then, this happened. There was another complaint. It wasn't out of the blue. I do think it is harsh, but he was of retirement age and will receive his full pension for a long and positive career.


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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Trueman

u first


I would if that flag had an special signification for me


But got to be someone here willing to try !



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: Trueman
This makes me wonder what if a member uses that flag as an avatar.


I think people have. LOl. I don't pay attention. There was only one av I ever alerted (it was truly disgusting).

I don;t think that flag is banned from an av. I think a few ppl used it when there was hoopla over amazon not selling it.
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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 06:15 PM
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I suspected there was more to the story. You did a great job of investigating it.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Profusion


This is what happens when you don't think. You are not free when you are school teacher.

If you want to pull something like this make sure the admin is on board (in writing).

If it's in text books, in a same manner as that teacher's display, then it seems like the school was behaving more PC than anyone else against the teacher, but against the nation's history when you need to consider text books themselves are filled with words, none of them of them perfect, just some are perhaps better than others.
There's nothing to say that the teacher didn't think, the flag has nothing to do with the present, but the past, everyone knows what it looks like, many use it wrongly I think, but bear in mind that even the National Socialist German Workers' Party flag..the Nazi flag, is able to be seen as in display for a variety of reasons including educational.
Anyway, nobody actually said he 'pulled' something, what is clear that some objected to the display, a Black couple I think, it's not clear why though, unless there is something underhand by the teacher we are are not being told about properly.
Some countries have no restrictions on flags, or flag waving including the Nazi flag, or even vocal racism etc, however the purpose of use could put somebody in the pockey should the intent be to incite discrimination or hate or harm.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Trueman
This makes me wonder what if a member uses that flag as an avatar.


I think people have. LOl. I don't pay attention. There was only one av I ever alerted (it was truly disgusting).

I don;t think that flag is banned from an av. I think a few ppl used it when there was hoopla over amazon not selling it.


I think I'd S&F anyone who try to use it here. I never understood what's the problem with that flag. Dukes of Hazzard were the best.


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posted on Feb, 1 2017 @ 09:11 AM
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Actually, I believe there is a "Warrior" that has one in his Avatar, last I knew.

And I think it is over the top to fire this man. While he is 70, he sure seemed to be liked by the students, and maybe this job is what kept him going?



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