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Canadian government classifies interim Hornet report

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posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: LeviB

That's exactly what it is IMO. They were elected partly on the no F-35 platform. Then they found they couldn't stop them from bidding it on a replacement and found a way to cover their ass, and screwed everyone else.




posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 10:44 AM
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There was a decent article in the London Free Press last week about how the Super Hornets aren't what we need because of the reasons we've all mentioned, and it talked about the contracting BS as well. It was nice to see some actual information in the paper instead of F-35/Superhornet/insert replacement here.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: LeviB

If Lockheed stands their ground, they can really hurt the Canadian Aerospace Industry again. Under the terms of the F-35 agreement, all contracts for the F-35 go to nations purchasing the aircraft. They're getting away with paying to remain a member right now, but Lockheed has every right to pull the work when the existing contracts expire.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 01:05 AM
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A group of retired RCAF Commanders have written an open letter opposing the Hornet buy.

www.canadiandefencereview.com...



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 01:55 AM
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Send a RAAF squadron over to fill in
?



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 02:44 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
A group of retired RCAF Commanders have written an open letter opposing the Hornet buy.

www.canadiandefencereview.com...


Liberals gonna create a fiasco....
How much were the F35's going to cost them?



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 02:56 AM
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a reply to: Blackfinger

Yeah! Perhaps the Roulettes, might do a better job.


regards,

bally



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 05:30 AM
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Fark I didnt realise the Canuks didnt even have the Super Hornet.

I was thinking, why are they looking at Typhoon (Eurofighter) when they have SH, F-35 is the next step up for the SH!

Im sure there is a reason Canada and Aus bought Hornets when they dont have a carrier but the F-35 in my opinion is spending to save, anything else is just going to cost more down the line.

My thinking on this is if Canada buy F-35 it can compete with anything Russia can field (F-35 is almost production ready, Russia have development aircraft which may not even compete with the 35).

Basically, the F-35 will serve Canada against any current and developed threats beyond its life, if the argument is the Super Hornet can also do this well I challenge that, once Russia get a working stealth platform it will replace all legacy attack aircraft which will make SH a sitting duck, absolutely no deterrent.

Unless Russia field an anti-gravity invisible UAV, the -35 will still be better than the PAK-F/A or any indigenous platform for the next 20 years +. The reason, the US has fielded the F-22 for an over 20 year design and still nothing comes close.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: Forensick

Unit cost superhornet vs F35 for Canada, anyone know?



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: D8Tee

Nope. They'll negotiate the price, and probably won't announce it, based on the NDA requirement. If you go by list price, which they won't pay, the F-35A is now cheaper by around $10M a copy.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: D8Tee

Nope. They'll negotiate the price, and probably won't announce it, based on the NDA requirement. If you go by list price, which they won't pay, the F-35A is now cheaper by around $10M a copy.


So Canada will be getting a last generation plane with next generation price. Plus they are jeopardizing their aerospace industry. Which F35 was Canada getting, why were they getting the A and not the C?

edit on 28-2-2017 by D8Tee because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: D8Tee
Which F35 was Canada getting, why were they getting the A and not the C?


Can't launch F-35's from Halifax Frigates.
2nd.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: peck420

originally posted by: D8Tee
Which F35 was Canada getting, why were they getting the A and not the C?


Can't launch F-35's from Halifax Frigates.
2nd.

Not sure I understand what you are getting at?



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 03:35 PM
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a reply to: D8Tee

They didn't need the C. The C is larger and heavier than the other 2, and is optimized for carrier operations. Canada doesn't have a carrier to operate them from. If all you're going to do is operate a carrier aircraft from shore, and there's a land based version avaliable, it makes more sense to buy the land version.



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