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Trump Administration Says Green Card Holders Won’t Be Barred

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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

If the waiver is true then there is nothing to debate.




posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 06:53 PM
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Visa vs Green Card

A major difference between a visa and a green card is that a visa is the right to enter the United States of America whereas a green card means the person has a permanent residence in the United States of America. There are types of visa such as B-1 business visa, B-2 tourist visa and K-1 fiancé visa. A visa allows the person to visit the United States for a set period of time whereas a green card is necessary to be obtained for the person to live and work here.

A visa is of a temporary status whereas a green card gives a permanent status to the foreigners to live and work in the United States. The permanent residence card or green card is issued for the period of ten years whereas a visa is issued for a period of a few months. The expiration of green card is a serious issue and a green card should be renewed immediately.

A green card is an identification card for those who do not have American citizenship. An individual who is a green card holder can enjoy the same kind of facilities as the local citizens such as social security benefits, health insurance profits or lower education fees etc. This is not affected by the nationality of his birth country and at same time he can manage to maintain permanent residence in the United States.


www.differencebetween.net...

US still reserves the right to denied the issuing of green cards once the expiration is due.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: marg6043

If the waiver is true then there is nothing to debate.


This is not a "waiver" of the EO.
It is part of the EO that Homeland Security can grant admittance in certain circumstances.


edit on 1/29/17 by BlueAjah because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

And?

According to the dhs site:

The Department of Homeland Security, through U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), provides immigration benefits to people who are entitled to stay in the U.S. on a temporary or permanent basis. These benefits include

granting of U.S. citizenship to those who are eligible to naturalize,
authorizing individuals to reside in the U.S. on a permanent basis, and
providing aliens with the eligibility to work in the United States


Although not a legal document, according to this, BlueAjah's interpretation would be correct but the EO would even apply to naturalized citizens so, either way, someone messed up therefore, the need for the waiver.



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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Immigration falls under U.S. Department of Homeland Security and is not the only department that falls under them.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Not talking about what you posted. The waiver of the EO was what the head of DHS issued to green card holders.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

Yes, DT is known for bloopers. He's far from perfect and I bet his family facepalms over some of the stuff he says. I think the intent is whats important tho. I don't think he meant this the way it's portrayed in the MSM.

But thats just me.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: Mike.Ockizard

The EO isn't something DT just said off the top off his head which was misinterpreted by the MSM.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:30 PM
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Here's the travel re-entering guidelines for Green Card people...

I bet the standard screening this weekend on re-entry was the same it's been for a year.

MSM crazy hyperbole.



International Travel as a Permanent Resident



( Last Reviewed/Updated: 02/17/2016 )

What documents do I need to present to reenter the United States?

If seeking to enter the United States after temporary travel abroad, you will need to present a valid, unexpired “green card” (Form I-551, Permanent Resident Card). When arriving at a port of entry, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection Officer will review your permanent resident card and any other identity documents you present, such as a passport, foreign national I.D. card or U.S. Driver’s License, and determine if you can enter the United States. For information pertaining to entry into the United States, see U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s webpage.
Does travel outside the United States affect my permanent resident status?

Permanent residents are free to travel outside the United States, and temporary or brief travel usually does not affect your permanent resident status. If it is determined, however, that you did not intend to make the United States your permanent home, you will be found to have abandoned your permanent resident status. A general guide used is whether you have been absent from the United States for more than a year. Abandonment may be found to occur in trips of less than a year where it is believed you did not intend to make the United States your permanent residence. While brief trips abroad generally are not problematic, the officer may consider criteria such as whether your intention was to visit abroad only temporarily, whether you maintained U.S. family and community ties, maintained U.S employment, filed U.S. income taxes as a resident, or otherwise established your intention to return to the United States as your permanent home. Other factors that may be considered include whether you maintained a U.S. mailing address, kept U.S. bank accounts and a valid U.S. driver’s license, own property or run a business in the United States, or any other evidence that supports the temporary nature of your absence.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Then why the waiver?



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Tardacus

Why indeed.

Still the waiver had to be issued because, as the OP said, someone messed up.


it`s still consistent with his goal to keep terrorists out.

The only people who think trump wants to ban all muslims are the liberals,so in their eyes this looks like his plan failed, but that was never his plan and he never stated that was his plan.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: xuenchen

Then why the waiver?


You fall for it too.

Green Card holders don't need a visa to re-enter the U.S.

And the re-entry screening is heavy duty since last year.

Trigger the Triggerables.




posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: Tardacus
it`s still consistent with his goal to keep terrorists out.

That wasn't being questioned.


The only people who think trump wants to ban all muslims are the liberals,so in their eyes this looks like his plan failed, but that was never his plan and he never stated that was his plan.

The EO was written poorly and they had to issue a waiver to correct that.

That is what is being discussed.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: marg6043

If the waiver is true then there is nothing to debate.


right, there is nothing to debate there never was.

the vetting procedures and policies will continue to be revamped and unvetted people from those 7 countries will not be allowed to enter the U.S. until they have been properly vetted under the new stricter procedures and policies.
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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Tardacus
it`s still consistent with his goal to keep terrorists out.

That wasn't being questioned.


The only people who think trump wants to ban all muslims are the liberals,so in their eyes this looks like his plan failed, but that was never his plan and he never stated that was his plan.

The EO was written poorly and they had to issue a waiver to correct that.

That is what is being discussed.


oh is that all this is about?

this is a non issue.

an improperly written EO inadvertently prevented some people from re-enter the U.S. it was never Trumps intent to keep those people out, the problem was rectified and it`s all good now.
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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

How can I have fallen for it when I pointed out in a previous post that green card holders are different than visa holders?

Was the waiver issued or not?



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

This would not have been news to you if you had read and understood the OP.

It is enough of an issue for DHS to have issued a waiver because of the mistake.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Tardacus

This would not have been news to you if you had read and understood the OP.

It is enough of an issue for DHS to have issued a waiver because of the mistake.



which is why it`s a non issue

It was never Trumps intention to keep those people out, now they get to come back in just as Trump intended.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

Some might say that all the noise made forced them to make the change.

Either way they did make a mistake in their heavy-handedness or in redacting the EO.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

well it`s good that the mistake was noticed and taken care of quickly, now everyone is happy, trump is happy because his intentions to let the people in is in progress, the people are happy to be coming back in.



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