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I think and act like an American….why are you calling me a Fascist?

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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: seeker1963




I am believing the latter with what I am seeing with those who preach tolerance while beating the hell out of those who have a different opinion.......


I find it ironic that you are the one making all the threats about civil war because people have different ideas.


WTF is with you trying to say I am threatening anyone?

Obviously you are proving my point! You have nothing other than claiming to be a victim?

Where did I make a threat?




posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: seeker1963




I am believing the latter with what I am seeing with those who preach tolerance while beating the hell out of those who have a different opinion.......


I find it ironic that you are the one making all the threats about civil war because people have different ideas.


WTF is with you trying to say I am threatening anyone?
I asked you to address the points I made, and here you are refusing to address them trying to make me look like the bad guy? In other words you have NOTHING!

Obviously you are proving my point! You have nothing other than claiming to be a victim?

Where did I make a threat?



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: LetsGoViking
a reply to: Abysha

Critical thinking and reading are not your long suites, are they?


I know you are but what am I? You know... you can't just keep that strategy up forever.

I mean, you can, and your echo chamber will pat you on the back for it but it's never really going to be "right", you know?

Person A presents an argument. You simply replace the pronouns in that argument without really arguing why. Again, it's the whole "who smelt it, dealt it" logic. Sure, it's popular among your peers but I've also seen monkeys get excited when they witness some stellar poo flinging.

My point is that you are getting sucked up into a major logic flaw that many others are. You can't just say "No, you are" all the time. It doesn't work.


Please explain to me, by point, where are my flaws in logic. As I recall, someone posted an opinion, you yourself made reply with "You can't just say "No, you are" argument.

And you have no idea who are my peers, and no one "pats me on the back", as if you would know. You can't keep the argument on the field of battle, so you move in with ad hom because it's inarguable.
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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: seeker1963




I am believing the latter with what I am seeing with those who preach tolerance while beating the hell out of those who have a different opinion.......


I find it ironic that you are the one making all the threats about civil war because people have different ideas.


WTF is with you trying to say I am threatening anyone?
I asked you to address the points I made, and here you are refusing to address them trying to make me look like the bad guy? In other words you have NOTHING!

Obviously you are proving my point! You have nothing other than claiming to be a victim?

Where did I make a threat?








I think that is an issue you who believe in the Globalist/Progressive agenda need to come to terms with. Our country is on the brink of a civil war because of a certain political group who feels that their feelings are ABOVE THE LAW! We have had a system set up for years for citizens to vote for those who are willing to uphold our current law OR change it! You guys lost this round and seem to be hell bent on FORCING your views and opinions on those of us who LEGALLY shot your kind down this last election! Are you willing to cause a Civil War because you didn't get a trophy?


I never mentioned civil war. You did, trying to sound all bad ass.
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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 05:13 PM
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It's sad that 99% of the libs on the board have no understanding of what fascism is or how it worked 70 years ago, but have no problem slinging the word around with everyone they don't agree with.
edit on 29-1-2017 by avgguy because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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From my previous where I defined Socialism per the Merriam-Webester Dictionary:



often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition 2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control


the Oxford English Dictionary:



1. a. Usu. with capital initial. A nationalist political movement that controlled the government of Italy from 1922 to 1943 under the leadership of Benito Mussolini (1883–1945); the principles or ideology of the fascisti (fascista n. 1a). See also fascist n. 1a, Fascismo n., and cf. sense 1b. Now hist.

b. gen. An authoritarian and nationalistic system of government and social organization which emerged after the end of the First World War in 1918, and became a prominent force in European politics during the 1920s and 1930s, most notably in Italy and Germany; (later also) an extreme right-wing political ideology based on the principles underlying this system. Freq. with capital initial. Cf. fascist n. 1b.


So, the OED makes us delve further:



b. gen. A member of a political organization advocating fascism (fascism n. 1b); (more generally) an advocate or follower of fascism, its principles, or ideology; a proponent of any extreme right-wing ideology.


No real definition there, besides circular references, so let's stick with the MBD, as it at least provides some framework for what a fascist would be in todays world.

Now let's compare them with the two sides of this debate, the Democrats and the Republicans.

1. ...exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader
Democrats:
    exalts all nations except their own and allies, but not a hit
    Republicans: National Pride is paramount, centralized autocratic government, not so much
    2. ...severe economic and social regimentation [ed.note: not sure how to interpret "severe" in this context]
    Democrats: Heavy taxes or regulatory fees for businesses and persons for the Party's pet projects, i.e., The Affordable Care Act, the EPA, that impact the poorest more than the richest, thus keeping the status quo
    Republicans: while they do like their "good ole boy" networks, until it's legislative reality, they have to get a pass

    3. ...forcible suppression of opposition
    Democrats: calls for "climate deniers" to be fined or imprisoned, calls for regulation of "fake"news that they don't agree with
    Republicans: none that I'm currently aware of

    So it seems that those on the Dem side are slightly more fascist by definition, with the Repubs are inching their way in that direction. Have to call it a wash, though in reviewing the literature over the past several years that the Left is far more embracing of Fascist style government, if it's one they control.

    In the US, as long as Congress can override a President, it's not Fascist, even if you don't like what they do.
    My 2 cents.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 01:37 AM
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originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute
What is the disconnect in America today? The American narrative is one of revolution, Civil War, World War, expansion, capitalism and unapologetic patriotism. Americans have always fought for their own values and beliefs and have carried their beliefs to every corner of this continent and the world. We as a people have invested our blood and treasure to make the world a safer place while dying on foreign shores and lands to either liberate or defeat the enemies of our Democracy.

Seriously?
You really wrote this yourself?
You really believe this?


I think and act like an American….why are you calling me a Fascist?

Perhaps because the 'American' that you describe appears to be the tool of fascistic oligarchs, like Trump, stomping all over the planet, bullying, raping, murdering it's 'beliefs' and rules and religion into everywhere and everyone that it is allowed to!
Seriously?
Making the world safe?
I can be thick, at times, is this satire and I am just missing it?
You sound like a 'Reefer Madness type of propaganda film!
Well done, if that was your aim!

Those poor ignorant sons and daughters all over the world aren't dying for me!
How naive to think so.

Yeah, makin' the world safe for apple pie and mommy, one damned muzzie/gook/faggot/liberal, kike, dago... at a time!



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 05:32 AM
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a reply to: avgguy

Liberalism is the reason why your ass can sit on these boards and call Liberals Libtards. Pay respects.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: namelesss

Not only do I believe it, I stand by it....sorry you don't understand my concept of American values but that isn't my problem..... now is it?

Trump is President and he was elected by people like me who believe many of the same things that I believe, the next four years are going to be hard on you if you can't get a better grasp on reality.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 04:12 AM
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I'm kind of worried. If they keep up this idiotic protesting and being tools for the establishment, then they're going to give them the justification to go into a police state, removing Trump while they're at it. That's their plan. Now if things would ever get bad enough where I'd want to protest, then public response would be lessened and the feds would be more ready to counter. Its called protest fatigue. They're just tools being manipulated into being neo anarchists with Hollywood types and DC stooges egging them on while they have no intention of joining in.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 05:09 AM
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originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute
a reply to: namelesss

Not only do I believe it, I stand by it....sorry you don't understand my concept of American values but that isn't my problem..... now is it?

Why defensive?
It is certainly your problem if your goal of posting is that others will know what you intend to communicate.
I merely pointed out that there are many different Perspectives of 'America(n)', because there are.
Asking you to elaborate is far from an unreasonable, or disrespectful request.
In the name of communication! *__-


Trump is President and he was elected by people like me who believe many of the same things that I believe, the next four years are going to be hard on you if you can't get a better grasp on reality.

My prediction is that within 6 months, you will sorely regret your naive beliefs.
There are many already regretting theirs...
Time will tell, eh?



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 05:32 AM
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It's ok, looks like the 'fascist' line of attack is ending.
CNN now pushing that Bannon is a Leninist adopting the radicalisation tactics of Allinsky.


Their evidence is that a reporter has claimed that Bannon once told him that. It's enough though for Chris Coumo to declare it as fact and make these new claims.

The lefts hysteria is taking a turn it seems

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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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Because of Obama, he was single handedly deconstructing America for 8 years. Look at the damage he's done to the country, to the world. From his goofy unrealistic Socialist Marxist ideals, to his America is abhorrent view, he's really left a mess for real truly patriotic American presidents to clean up.



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: namelesss

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute
a reply to: namelesss

Not only do I believe it, I stand by it....sorry you don't understand my concept of American values but that isn't my problem..... now is it?

Why defensive?
It is certainly your problem if your goal of posting is that others will know what you intend to communicate.
I merely pointed out that there are many different Perspectives of 'America(n)', because there are.
Asking you to elaborate is far from an unreasonable, or disrespectful request.
In the name of communication! *__-


Trump is President and he was elected by people like me who believe many of the same things that I believe, the next four years are going to be hard on you if you can't get a better grasp on reality.

My prediction is that within 6 months, you will sorely regret your naive beliefs.
There are many already regretting theirs...
Time will tell, eh?


Defensive? I was worried I was too offensive, I don't understand your request that I elaborate....the OP is pretty much black and white. I assure you I have no regrets on Trump and won't in six months because I am intelligent enough to understand that the entire MSM is trying to alienate me from my President and if they can't then their heads will surely explode. Trump is doing exactly what he campaigned on so I am pleased.

Lastly, I don't really appreciate the racial slurs you used at the bottom of your post because I believe you were trying to label me and my OP as racist....an indictment which is a seriously flawed liberal ploy:

" Yeah, makin' the world safe for apple pie and mommy, one damned muzzie/gook/faggot/liberal, kike, dago... at a time!"
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posted on Feb, 3 2017 @ 02:16 AM
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originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute
...because I am intelligent enough to understand that the entire MSM is trying to alienate me from my President

That's just seriously schizophrenic!
I can't discuss this with you...



Lastly, I don't really appreciate the racial slurs you used at the bottom of your post because I believe you were trying to label me and my OP as racist....an indictment which is a seriously flawed liberal ploy:

" Yeah, makin' the world safe for apple pie and mommy, one damned muzzie/gook/faggot/liberal, kike, dago... at a time!"

Truth is often unappreciated, at first, it hurts!
Your attempt to demonize and dismiss what you don't want to hear, and who says it, is a seriously flawed irrational Republikkkan/Trumpish ploy!

Need I enumerate the (racial) genocides and other various horrors and atrocities inflicted upon humanity (and the planet) in the name of;

"The American narrative is one of revolution, Civil War, World War, expansion, capitalism and unapologetic patriotism. Americans have always fought for their own values and beliefs and have carried their beliefs to every corner of this continent and the world."

As far as I can see, if the shoe fits...





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posted on Feb, 3 2017 @ 04:06 AM
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And yet Trump is having a bromance with one of the biggest communist POS on the planet... responsible for killing Americans...... Putin.


How many millions of Americans has Putin killed - have I missed something?



posted on Feb, 3 2017 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: namelesss

"Truth is often unappreciated, at first, it hurts!"

I hope you appreciate the irony of your argument. I assume from your world view that you dress to the left.




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