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I think and act like an American….why are you calling me a Fascist?

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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:13 PM
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Why do you think that a globalist oligarch with investments in the very same countries that financed 9/11 (that are not on the travel ban) is going to fight globalist oligarchs?

Why do y'all think subscribing to the NWO is going to stop the NWO?

Why does it seem like you people are under a spell and that the cabal knows you better than you know yourselves?
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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Without posting your whole quote I respond to the assertions that the list you refer to as a categorized belief system of mine is untrue. The inclusion of these "American ideals" was merely a collection of random actions that Americans have historically embraced.

I agree that the media is a Capitalist construct but you have to look at who owns the media and why. Ask yourself why does Jeff Bezo's own the Washington Post because newspapers are notoriously unprofitable in todays connected world....I believe it's power? Bezo's isn't in the news game for money, he has an agenda and I think that when WikiLeaks exposed the Podesta emails it illustrated that all of the MSM have an agenda and it isn't Capitalism as you state......it's Globalist and we are the prize. America the Great Satan with a Constitution, Borders, Culture and Language must be destroyed for the greater good. If evil exists in the world as a concept then Globalism is the framework.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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Anybody hear about the lady and the kid who died on the plane when the lady had to try and put the mask on her kid first?.

If she handled herself first, they would both be alive now.

That is where are economy is now, out of oxygen.

Do the right thing to survive or die, that is where we are.

You outsource success via dropping to 3rd world income rates in a 1st world country that has increasing inflation, you will get boned.

But. nooooo, because feelings.

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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
Anybody hear about the lady and the kid who died on the plane when the lady had to try and put the mask on her kid first?.

If she handled herself first, they would both be alive now.

That is where are economy is now, out of oxygen.

Do the right thing to survive or die, that is where we are.

You outsource success via dropping to 3rd world income rates in a 1st world country that has increasing inflation, you will get boned.

But. nooooo, because feelings.



That concept only works if the other person is your child and you love them. In a capitalist world, the most successful takes as many masks they can get from others and has more oxygen than they need, while the others still suffocate, staring wide-eyed from the coach section.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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Interesting topic. A lot of interesting posts as well. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that at the core of American idealism is the individual. Individual rights matter. The individual matters. Even if it doesn't always benefit everyone else. Even if it could be harmful to the group in some ways. In recent years we have seen the globalist leftists attempt to pervert these individual rights as a means of division. Since it seems that a large population of the United States has doubled down on the concept of the United States as an individual entity The Narrative now switches to fascism. The truth is that the definition of fascism that we all know closely borders on some of the Socialist states that we have seen in the past. Except we called them communist or socialist. They had control over the economy. They were repressive. And they were controlled by dictorial powers. As has been stated by other people in this thread Educational Systems are now designed for indoctrination into this group mindset. In the last 15 years I have seen racism and xenophobia used as a means to beat people over the head with the leftist ideology then I had in my previous 33 years on this Earth. It's like it just sprung up one day. There is an agenda and it is globalization.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute

I don't want to get into another strange exchange with you.

I've read several of your posts since then.

We are not even close to being on the same wavelength.

We are simply - - not going to agree.


Agreed........



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute


If you don't agree with the Progressive ideology, you are a Fascist!


Kind of reminds me of certain religions who say anyone who doesn't abide by their doctrine that they are doomed in the afterlife?



YES YES YES YES YES

Ridiculous. We're going backward to the dark ages of isolationism - - - not because our infrastructure has been destroyed and we have to rebuild - - - but, became of some narcissist idiot.




Please explain why you think trade deals that actually benefit the country are examples of isolationism


Trade is global.

People who need products are global.


Sounds a lot like CORPORATISM aka FASCISM.


Anything can be done right or wrong.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute

I don't want to get into another strange exchange with you.

I've read several of your posts since then.

We are not even close to being on the same wavelength.

We are simply - - not going to agree.


Agreed........



Made me laugh



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: Abysha

Let me translate the analogy...

Your neighbor is a crackhead, and he wants to trade everything he has with you.

What do you do?

Do you keep your stuff. or do you do what Jesus would do and take food off your kids table?

It's a complicated situation, made even worse from bad trade deals in the past.



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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: Abysha

Let me translate the analogy...

Your neighbor is a crackhead, and he wants to trade everything he has with you.


Extremism?



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:39 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: Abysha

Let me translate the analogy...

Your neighbor is a crackhead, and he wants to trade everything he has with you.


Extremism?


Victim-ism?

....still waiting for a response to my question


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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: Arizonaguy
Interesting topic. A lot of interesting posts as well. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that at the core of American idealism is the individual. Individual rights matter. The individual matters. Even if it doesn't always benefit everyone else. Even if it could be harmful to the group in some ways. In recent years we have seen the globalist leftists attempt to pervert these individual rights as a means of division. Since it seems that a large population of the United States has doubled down on the concept of the United States as an individual entity The Narrative now switches to fascism. The truth is that the definition of fascism that we all know closely borders on some of the Socialist states that we have seen in the past. Except we called them communist or socialist. They had control over the economy. They were repressive. And they were controlled by dictorial powers. As has been stated by other people in this thread Educational Systems are now designed for indoctrination into this group mindset. In the last 15 years I have seen racism and xenophobia used as a means to beat people over the head with the leftist ideology then I had in my previous 33 years on this Earth. It's like it just sprung up one day. There is an agenda and it is globalization.




You know what you said a mouthful!

I love my herb, yet as an American who loves my country and the Constitution I sit here and watch these posts about how Jeff Sessions will make weed illegal and violate states rights and I just sit here and say to myself, "No big deal, if I need it I will get it as I usually do. We as a country have MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT!".

It's all about prioritizing what is more important to maintain our Freedom and Liberty. Low hanging fruit can be taken care of at a later date.......



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope



I think in serious discussion of economics and political movements the term has a place. But as Orwell states, it has little meaning in public discourse and conversation.


This Orwell guy - is he a little like Jesus?

How come he knows everything?



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: LesMisanthrope



I think in serious discussion of economics and political movements the term has a place. But as Orwell states, it has little meaning in public discourse and conversation.


This Orwell guy - is he a little like Jesus?

How come he knows everything?



Orwell is the shut-down go-to. If you don't feel like you have decent footing to debate, you just invoke Orwell and drop the mic like a boss.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: LesMisanthrope



I think in serious discussion of economics and political movements the term has a place. But as Orwell states, it has little meaning in public discourse and conversation.


This Orwell guy - is he a little like Jesus?

How come he knows everything?



Orwell is the shut-down go-to. If you don't feel like you have decent footing to debate, you just invoke Orwell and drop the mic like a boss.


That or you invoke something from our collegiate institutions that focus on non scientific facts but feelings such as "gender studies", "white privilege" and "Social Justice"?



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: Abysha

I'm guilty of the whole Stalin/Hitler thing myself :-)

But - those are metaphors - not reference material

I'd just as soon see people start using Jesus



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: LesMisanthrope



I think in serious discussion of economics and political movements the term has a place. But as Orwell states, it has little meaning in public discourse and conversation.


This Orwell guy - is he a little like Jesus?

How come he knows everything?



Orwell is the shut-down go-to. If you don't feel like you have decent footing to debate, you just invoke Orwell and drop the mic like a boss.


That or you invoke something from our collegiate institutions that focus on non scientific facts but feelings such as "gender studies", "white privilege" and "Social Justice"?



Don't get me wrong, Orwell is an amazing resource for social commentary but he was primarily an essayist. It's like citing a journalist. Collegiate peer reviewed papers are scientific, regardless of the reader's ability to interpret them.

In any case, my problem isn't people utilizing Orwell's works (I do it myself); my problem is when they cite him almost as a way to excuse themselves from a conversation without having to concede to another person's point. It's the same as when somebody says "Oh that's Saul Alinsky tactics!" or "It's just a red flag" or "controlled opposition". Things that don't require any further insight and kills the conversation.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: LesMisanthrope



I think in serious discussion of economics and political movements the term has a place. But as Orwell states, it has little meaning in public discourse and conversation.


This Orwell guy - is he a little like Jesus?

How come he knows everything?



Orwell is the shut-down go-to. If you don't feel like you have decent footing to debate, you just invoke Orwell and drop the mic like a boss.


That or you invoke something from our collegiate institutions that focus on non scientific facts but feelings such as "gender studies", "white privilege" and "Social Justice"?



Don't get me wrong, Orwell is an amazing resource for social commentary but he was primarily an essayist. It's like citing a journalist. Collegiate peer reviewed papers are scientific, regardless of the reader's ability to interpret them.

In any case, my problem isn't people utilizing Orwell's works (I do it myself); my problem is when they cite him almost as a way to excuse themselves from a conversation without having to concede to another person's point. It's the same as when somebody says "Oh that's Saul Alinsky tactics!" or "It's just a red flag" or "controlled opposition". Things that don't require any further insight and kills the conversation.


Controlled opposition? Really? You are now resorting to Alex Jones tactics? lol

I know you are better than that!

But here is my take on Orwell. He was either brilliant enough to see how the elitists were playing humanity, OR he had inside information as to what was planned for us.

I am believing the latter with what I am seeing with those who preach tolerance while beating the hell out of those who have a different opinion.......



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: LesMisanthrope



I think in serious discussion of economics and political movements the term has a place. But as Orwell states, it has little meaning in public discourse and conversation.


This Orwell guy - is he a little like Jesus?

How come he knows everything?



Orwell is the shut-down go-to. If you don't feel like you have decent footing to debate, you just invoke Orwell and drop the mic like a boss.


That or you invoke something from our collegiate institutions that focus on non scientific facts but feelings such as "gender studies", "white privilege" and "Social Justice"?



Don't get me wrong, Orwell is an amazing resource for social commentary but he was primarily an essayist. It's like citing a journalist. Collegiate peer reviewed papers are scientific, regardless of the reader's ability to interpret them.

In any case, my problem isn't people utilizing Orwell's works (I do it myself); my problem is when they cite him almost as a way to excuse themselves from a conversation without having to concede to another person's point. It's the same as when somebody says "Oh that's Saul Alinsky tactics!" or "It's just a red flag" or "controlled opposition". Things that don't require any further insight and kills the conversation.


Controlled opposition? Really? You are now resorting to Alex Jones tactics? lol

I know you are better than that!

But here is my take on Orwell. He was either brilliant enough to see how the elitists were playing humanity, OR he had inside information as to what was planned for us.

I am believing the latter with what I am seeing with those who preach tolerance while beating the hell out of those who have a different opinion.......


Starred. But I take the former and just say he was a brilliant mind.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963




I am believing the latter with what I am seeing with those who preach tolerance while beating the hell out of those who have a different opinion.......


I find it ironic that you are the one making all the threats about civil war because people have different ideas.




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