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So California wants to Secede from the Union

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posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: Kettu

Think about it...

That some Russian national (or even citizen) has enough "stroke" to get momentum with this movement is just insane!

I disagree with your association between trump and Russia; I think in time you will find this is not the case.




posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

OK about the Trump stuff, but on the Calexit's own web page's blog they discuss opening a diplomatic embassy in Moscow. It's something a lot of supporters don't even realize. The leader has extensive Russian ties and has lived in Moscow for years at a time.



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: GreyScale

Thank you for taking the time to understand the water issues...even if superficially (maybe).

Thank you also for illustrating my point.

And finally, thank you for being a well reasoned person and resident of CA.

CA is not the enemy despite what some may thing, only southern CA. These are the ones who claim title to everything...and they're WRONG, and they will LOSE! This is just one example.

Game, Set and Match!





Oh! I don't LIVE in California, I got the hell out of there as soon as I could. The northern part of the state is just doomed.

I moved to Montana, where we are allowed to haze, obscure and otherwise harass people from California who move up here to escape the oppression that is California... yet bring it with them.

The southern part of that state is a cancer to freedom and liberty. I wish it would voluntarily contain itself so that it could be removed before it kills the host.

An opinion...



posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Isn't the main oil in Texas? Higher taxes for outsiders incoming?
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posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 06:36 AM
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Cali and go and take its 55 electoral votes with them. Please do.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 08:25 AM
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You know,it`s true that Ca is more like two states,when I was stationed at March I learned that everything from LA to San Diego was very different than the rest of the state,I met a lot of people from cental,northern,and eastern Ca that were down to earth good folks and I really liked those areas.Southern Ca sucks so bad if North Korea nuked them I wouldn`t even be annoyed,just a reason to wipe out NK and be rid of the worst part of the USA,but the rest of the state is pretty nice,wish they could be free of the sicko part of the state.Why don't we just keep our military assets and give the rest to Mexico in return for building the wall?!!



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 09:00 AM
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I had property in Montana for several years and the biggest headache was California people buying and changing. On guy fenced off several acres of my neighbors property with his and told the neighbor he would be tied up in court for years. The neighbor called the Sheriff and took his backhoe and pushed about 50 grand of the fence into a pile and had the Sheriff write a ticket for littering.






posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Wildbob77
I live in Northern California and am often stunned by how political decisions get made in my state.



I live in SOCA and am often stunned by how political decisions get made by the midwest, south, and Bible Belt.



You mean pretty much the rest of the country except NY area?



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 09:53 AM
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Where do you think you're going to get your WATER from, you lawless socialist zealots?????????? You won't last two whole days! BRILLIANT!


Bingo!

It's not only other states CA would be dependent on, but private companies too as many (Pepsi & Nestle included) now somehow "own" the rights to a lot of the water that feeds that area.

One good thing that would come out of a CA secession is that it would shine a spotlight on the fact that water and the rights to it are rapidly becoming privatized and owned by corporations, not states, cities or municipalities....corporations.

It's a disaster of biblical proportions waiting to happen...



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


I have already called my representative, Darrell Issa, on this issue and he stands against it. This won't go anywhere and is just another show by the Democrats to further divide and destroy our country.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I live here and still have yet to meet a single human being who wants to do this.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 10:04 PM
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a reply to: GreyScale

I used to live there too and could NOT agree with you more. Living there was so awful. Let them secede.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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That wouldnt be very american...freedom of speech and all. They can sign what they want. As for the op...let em go! Who would miss them anyway?
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posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: mikell
I had property in Montana for several years and the biggest headache was California people buying and changing. On guy fenced off several acres of my neighbors property with his and told the neighbor he would be tied up in court for years. The neighbor called the Sheriff and took his backhoe and pushed about 50 grand of the fence into a pile and had the Sheriff write a ticket for littering.





That's why I love this state..



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 10:19 PM
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Yeah enjoy bankruptcy Cali. Your Country economy cant survive on wine and hollywood. You would shrivel up without us gov money.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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#ing hypocrites!

With that being said, I hope Texas is next.
Then the other 48.

The lawless city/state of DC can rot in hell.

Then maybe these 50 PROVINCES can go back to being a collection of sovereign STATES united by common political and economic interests.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 10:51 PM
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California doesn't get a lot of their water from the USA, they get a lot of it from Canada.

I've also got one question for the USA. WHERE are you going to get over 90% of your fruits, vegetables, or nuts (99 percent of artichokes, 99 percent of walnuts, 97 percent of kiwis, 97 percent of plums, 95 percent of celery, 95 percent of garlic, 89 percent of cauliflower, 71 percent of spinach, and 69 percent of carrots) from if California were to leave? Also, a large part of the tax base would leave with CA, which has some of the richest Americans and most valuable real estate in the country.

Along with many things only made in California. If California went out on their own, they would be a G7 nation.

California is responsible for about 15% of the GDP of the United States.

USA needs California a LOT more than California needs the USA.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: texasyeti
Yeah enjoy bankruptcy Cali. Your Country economy cant survive on wine and hollywood. You would shrivel up without us gov money.


Actually, in 2016, California ranked 46/50 of most needy states. California is a G7 nation on their own, and would do amazingly well without Federal assistance of any kind.

wallethub.com...
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posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 03:50 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Didn't Texas, and a few other states do the exact same thing when Obama won?



posted on Jan, 31 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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California isn't going anywhere, they have tons of crazy folks there who'd like to leave but thankfully their state gov keeps them barely sane.



All the points have already been made about how much food they produce vs the water needs. If they became independent they could ramp back food productions to be less dependent on water, but that would never happen. So many states depend on that food production already, if it somehow did happen it would be chaotic I think.



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