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BREAKING NEWS: Emergency Stay Granted - Defeat for Trump's Right Wing Agenda

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posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:13 PM
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Thank you ACLU for allowing terrorist into our country.




posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

How? How is he legally or Constitutionally in violation?

Specifically, quote the law or Constitution.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: spiritualarchitect




posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Shoe's on the other foot when we see "other" people with high college educations.

I Like♥ Kellyanne.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

lol, I'm sure you do.

Thanks for making my point.

Tri Delt, or Kappa Delta.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Indigo5

How? How is he legally or Constitutionally in violation?

Specifically, quote the law or Constitution.

TheRedneck




The other federal law, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, bars discrimination against immigrants based on national origin, according to an op-ed by David Bier, an immigration policy analyst at the Cato Institute’s Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity.

The 1965 law provides that “no person shall receive any preference or priority or be discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of the person’s race, sex, nationality, place of birth or place of residence.”

www.abajournal.com...



But Trump’s order could be challenged as religious-based discrimination that violates the First Amendment’s establishment clause. One provision in particular is vulnerable. It says that, when refugee admissions begin after a 120-day hiatus, priority should be given to claims of religious-based persecution, “provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion.” That generally gives priority to Christian refugees,

www.abajournal.com...



City University of New York School of Law professor Ruthann Robson believes the equal protection argument could be successful, She tells the Washington Post that courts have criticized government distinctions based on ancestry and race.

Cornell immigration law professor Stephen Yale-Loehr sees promise in the due process claim in challenges filed on behalf of those currently being held at airports. “They can’t just put you on a plane and send you back without any sort of hearing at all,” he told CNN. “Courts look at the interest of the individual, the interest of the government, and balance the two.”

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman told the New York Times about another possible challenge that he may file with other state attorneys general. “There may be grounds for a claim that this does damage to a state, if they’re damaging our state institutions” like universities and hospitals, he said.





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posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:26 PM
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As I've said previously, Trump is likely to set several Supreme. Anyone challenging this, when it gets to the supreme in several years, it's not going to go well for you.

Trump virtually has all three branches on his side.
edit on 30-1-2017 by Xenogears because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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originally posted by: Xenogears
As I've said previously, Trump is likely to set several Supreme. Anyone challenging this, when it gets to the supreme in several years, it's not going to go well for you.


The thing about Supreme Court nominees is that they are in there for LIFE..No one runs for re-election...They only apply for the job once.

John Roberts was slated to be an extreme conservative appointee and he has managed to frustrate many a conservative since his appointment.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

The issuance of VISAs is not addressed in the Executive Order. Entry into the country is.

The preference clause may be struck down... maybe... but the 1st Amendment is not applicable to those not in the United States.

If that preference clause is struck down, it will result in more being turned away.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Xenogears
As I've said previously, Trump is likely to set several Supreme. Anyone challenging this, when it gets to the supreme in several years, it's not going to go well for you.


The thing about Supreme Court nominees is that they are in there for LIFE..No one runs for re-election...They only apply for the job once.

John Roberts was slated to be an extreme conservative appointee and he has managed to frustrate many a conservative since his appointment.


Despite the mass covering up of the chaos by the press, the chaos in europe is also going to be more evident within the coming years. Faced with reality, those of higher capacity will take the necessary measures.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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Washington state is filing suit against President Trump and administration officials over this executive order.




posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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Washington state is filing suit against President Trump and administration officials over this executive order.


Good, let them, it's the way the system is designed to work.


Promises made, promises kept, Shock to the system. And he's just getting started.

EO still in effect

Hours after a federal judge issued a stay on President Donald Trump's executive order temporarily restricting entry to the U.S. from seven Muslim-majority countries, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and a senior White House adviser issued robust responses, emphasizing that the order remains in force.

In a statement issued in the early hours of Sunday, the Department said: "President Trump's Executive Orders remain in place — prohibited travel will remain prohibited, and the U.S. government retains its right to revoke visas at any time if required for national security or public safety."


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posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 03:05 PM
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The majority of the country appear to be right with President Trump


A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 57 percent of Likely U.S. Voters favor a temporary ban on refugees from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen until the federal government approves its ability to screen out potential terrorists form coming here. Thirty-three percent are opposed, while 10 percent are undecided. Similarly, 56 percent favor a temporary block on visas prohibiting residents of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen from entering the United States until the government approves its ability to screen for likely terrorists. Thirty-two percent oppose this temporary ban, and 11 percent are undecided.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: ipsedixit

New Conspiracy Idea:

If a Federal Court strikes the whole EO, guess what happens....

...Nothing because the existing laws and regulations can still be enforced by simply enforcing what has previously been "alternatively relaxed".

Trump does it again.




posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Indigo5

Do you want to strip him of the duty to manage immigration?

TheRedneck


Strange question...

I don't want to "strip him" of ANY of his constitutional rights and authority as President.

But the constitution DOES NOT GRANT him the right to invent laws, that is the legislative branch.

I don't want to grant him Legislative Authority...and neither should you??

The Constitution grants him the rights to ADMINISTER laws..How the Laws are enforced.

That is what an Executive Order does...It is a guidance document explaining to an agency how to apply a given law...THAT CONGRESS passes.

IF an executive order is found by a judge or court to be in conflict with existing laws, then it is not valid.

BTW - THAT is why Presidents ask the Department of Justice for an opinion on Executive Orders before issuing them, and they also typically get the input from the Agency it will effect before issuing..Both designed to not run afoul with existing laws in content or enforcement.

Trump decided to consult neither with this one...And it shows..
you just might want to review your position.... Unless you thought Obama was also out of bounds www.proudcons.com...



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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Out of the seven countries that were banned by President Trump last Friday, five were bombed by the Obama administration: Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya and Somalia.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Trump was denying entry to the US for Muslims with Visas via EO... that EO is now frozen.


Trump's EO says nothing about banning Muslims. Typical liberal media spreading lies.
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posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 03:19 PM
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originally posted by: D8Tee
Out of the seven countries that were banned by President Trump last Friday, five were bombed by the Obama administration: Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya and Somalia.





posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74

Trump was denying entry to the US for Muslims with Visas via EO... that EO is now frozen.


The EO is in full force and all the issues have been resolved.

Waiting for lawsuits however.






posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Indigo5

Do you want to strip him of the duty to manage immigration?

TheRedneck


Strange question...

I don't want to "strip him" of ANY of his constitutional rights and authority as President.

But the constitution DOES NOT GRANT him the right to invent laws, that is the legislative branch.

I don't want to grant him Legislative Authority...and neither should you??

The Constitution grants him the rights to ADMINISTER laws..How the Laws are enforced.

That is what an Executive Order does...It is a guidance document explaining to an agency how to apply a given law...THAT CONGRESS passes.

IF an executive order is found by a judge or court to be in conflict with existing laws, then it is not valid.

BTW - THAT is why Presidents ask the Department of Justice for an opinion on Executive Orders before issuing them, and they also typically get the input from the Agency it will effect before issuing..Both designed to not run afoul with existing laws in content or enforcement.

Trump decided to consult neither with this one...And it shows..
you just might want to review your position.... Unless you thought Obama was also out of bounds www.proudcons.com...
edit on 30-1-2017 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



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