Johns Hopkins’ Top Psychologist Releases Terrifying Diagnosis of President Trump

So this type of article was all over about president Obama, and I don't think anyone paid much attention to it. Obama was often diagnosed remotely as a dangerous psychopath or something.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Is that the same John Gartner who authored this book? "The Hypomanic Edge: The Link Between (A Little) Craziness and (A Lot of) Success in America" If it is, perhaps Trump is setup for (A Lot of) Success then?

a reply to: joemoe

I think Trump has bought a bitter pill just to feed his ego, that pill being the Presidency. And yes, he is focusing on those campaign promises, as well he should. But how long can he play this charade and enjoy it enough to keep doing it. We have seen over the last set of presidents how quickly they age. Look at Obama and Bush, and they both were young compared to Trump. He is the oldest man to have been elected.

As I mentioned somewhere else, many if not most of the things he is signing now are not just his promises but the bills that have been put in motion after years and years of waiting by the Republican Party. THAT is what is happening now, he is just the tool for that agenda.

And as far as the sickness of Hillery goes, yup...That gal reeked of the desire for glory. Kate McKenna of SNL had her pegged to a tee.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I would assume you would need a base line on all of Hollywood, Congress and Captains of Industry types to be able to judge the degree of alleged illness.....until then it is just the Socialists trying to bring down the Capitalists.

originally posted by: SirKonstantin
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Virtually all presidents that have been examined, are classified as unhealthily both mentally and physically. I could go on to say that there has not been a "normal" president.


....probably, the only president that was close to "normal" was shot in a 1961 Lincoln Continental 4-door convertible....

I can't imagine anyone in their right mind wanting to be President.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Yes and we really have two choices Trump or Hillary. So Trump then, is truly the better choice then.

originally posted by: queenofswords
He's a book writer "posing" as a therapist behind a dept. at Johns Hopkins, imo.

Because Trump believes weather comes from that big yellow thing in the sky and not coal plants and cow farts and other non scientific things expect liberal pseudo intellectuals to come out in full support from all angles of their soon to be unemployed coleagues.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Look at Obama and Bush, and they both were young compared to Trump. He is the oldest man to have been elected.

I would put President Trump's energy up against both Obama's and Bush's combined. Remember, Trump has never drunk alcohol, used illicit drugs as Obama and Bush have, nor smoked cigarettes as Obama did. Now that I think about it, maybe that's why Obama was always so lazy.

originally posted by: queenofswords
He's a book writer "posing" as a therapist behind a dept. at Johns Hopkins, imo.

Yep, that's your opinion alright. Like Johns Hopkins is going to let a poser become a respected member of their ranks and thus demean their well established order. Not. Though likely they will now have to take some form of censure of him for this preach in ethics. Which he most likely took into consideration before his public statements.

The original blog cited by the OP had a link to the original story posted by US News.

www.usnews.com...

Either way both are opinion pieces.

Gartner acknowledges that he has not personally examined Trump, but says it's obvious from Trump's behavior that he meets the diagnostic criteria for the disorder, which include anti-social behavior, sadism, aggressiveness, paranoia and grandiosity. Trump's personality disorder (which includes hypomania) is also displayed through a lack of impulse control and empathy, and "a feeling that people ... don't recognize their greatness.

Now ask yourself...what would a psychotherapist say about you based on video's of YOU without ever having met you?
And more importantly would their diagnosis of you be accurate?

Gartner violated the “Goldwater Rule” of the psychology profession, in which a diagnosis of a public figure without personally examining them, and without their consent, is considered unethical.

why should we believe a guy who has demonstrated that he has no professional ethics? maybe a professionally unethical person might lie?

They can be intelligent, high functioning (hold an important job for example) soft-spoken, charming, tearful/seemingly emotional, gracious, well mannered, kind and have the ability to form relationships. They may lie, falsely accuse, dramatize, smear, cheat, steal, manipulate, accuse, blame or twist to get what they want and feel justified in doing so. Because they are entitled, egocentric and desperate, they do not experience it as wrong.

That kind of describes every politician.

originally posted by: khnum
There are over 300 mental health diagnosises the mental health industry can diagnose you with ,they can cure NONE of them,for the record Hillary's diagnosis is out there also, its just as bad if not worse.

And while I agree about Clinton, as I have mentioned in other replies, this thread is not about her. I had to laugh out loud when I heard she might be considering a run for mayor of NYC. But that is a whole other thread. Start that one and I will chime in over there ok?

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire

originally posted by: queenofswords
He's a book writer "posing" as a therapist behind a dept. at Johns Hopkins, imo.

Yep, that's your opinion alright. Like Johns Hopkins is going to let a poser become a respected member of their ranks and thus demean their well established order. Not. Though likely they will now have to take some form of censure of him for this preach in ethics. Which he most likely took into consideration before his public statements.

That's why I put "posing" in quotes. I'm not saying he doesn't have the credentials to TEACH. Understand?

Ken I'll take "People I know" for 500

They can be intelligent, high functioning (hold an important job for example) soft-spoken, charming, tearful/seemingly emotional, gracious, well mannered, kind and have the ability to form relationships. They may lie, falsely accuse, dramatize, smear, cheat, steal, manipulate, accuse, blame or twist to get what they want and feel justified in doing so. Because they are entitled, egocentric and desperate, they do not experience it as wrong.

What is my ex-girlfriends

That is correct

a reply to: Caver78

Mental health of organisations is a bit like the animal kingdom the bigger the organism the bigger the asshole at the top,Trump is eminently qualified to be Washington's enema nothing less than a kick ass take names borderline sociopath with rhinocerous hide would make any impression on the place.

originally posted by: ketsuko
So this type of article was all over about president Obama, and I don't think anyone paid much attention to it. Obama was often diagnosed remotely as a dangerous psychopath or something.

But K,,, this thread is not about Obamas illnesses. It is about Trumps. You know that but still you persist on turning everything back to Obama.

I put up a link. The least you could do is to do likewise. Huh? Oh no wait. The least you could do is to NOT put up a link, which of course is what you did.

originally posted by: joemoe
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Is that the same John Gartner who authored this book? "The Hypomanic Edge: The Link Between (A Little) Craziness and (A Lot of) Success in America" If it is, perhaps Trump is setup for (A Lot of) Success then?

I don't know. However that title sounds interesting. I have taken note of it and try to remember to check it out. I might learn something. Thanks.

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: Caver78

Mental health of organisations is a bit like the animal kingdom the bigger the organism the bigger the asshole at the top,Trump is eminently qualified to be Washington's enema nothing less than a kick ass take names borderline sociopath with rhinocerous hide would make any impression on the place.

I don't disagree with you having worked for one company who's VP was hustled out of the offices one afternoon for much needed treatment. We felt bad for him, no telling how long he'd gone needing help but trying to work anyways.

Obviously Trump is crazy! I can't recall when a President ever did so much in his first week in office. It is absolutely insane!

originally posted by: Tardacus

Gartner violated the “Goldwater Rule” of the psychology profession, in which a diagnosis of a public figure without personally examining them, and without their consent, is considered unethical.

why should we believe a guy who has demonstrated that he has no professional ethics? maybe a professionally unethical person might lie?

They can be intelligent, high functioning (hold an important job for example) soft-spoken, charming, tearful/seemingly emotional, gracious, well mannered, kind and have the ability to form relationships. They may lie, falsely accuse, dramatize, smear, cheat, steal, manipulate, accuse, blame or twist to get what they want and feel justified in doing so. Because they are entitled, egocentric and desperate, they do not experience it as wrong.

That kind of describes every politician.

Bottom of article I linked.

Corrected on Jan. 27, 2017: An earlier version of this article incorrectly identified John D. Gartner. He is a practicing psychotherapist who taught psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins University Medical School.

He "USED" to teach at John Hopkins.