Swedish police overwhelmed by increasing violence - seeking public help

a reply to: trollz

originally posted by: SwagLord
a reply to: CulturalResilience

you are a prime example of one of those ignorant Americans I speak of.
you won't believe what a swede tells you but you will believe whatever the news in your country tells you. you're being brainwashed. as I've said I'm from the very city you speak of as is my mother and sister and my family back hundreds of years.

I wish you could come here and you'd be amazed just how wrong it's being portrayed and how safe it is relative to the rest of the world. but I'm tired of this discussion you won't believe me regardless of what I say instead you will point to a useless statistic that reflects the changes of the whole world and the EU and not malmö.

If your powers of observation are as weak as your power to assume then what you say has very little credibility. I am not American, I do not live there and never have. Why would anyone give any credence to the words of someone who makes such blinkered and inaccurate assumptions.

a reply to: CulturalResilience

unchecked border madness?
wtf?
just recently a friend of my mother's, a Swedish woman in the 60s went into Copenhagen.
upon return she was stopped because her Id card had expired. she couldn't come into the country. her son had to go to Copenhagen airport where she was stuck and give her her passport for her to come in.

this happened to a POLICE OFFICER as well. he also didn't have his id with him for whatever reason. but he could prove he was a police officer in sweden but it didn't matter. he also had to had his passport given to him for him to enter.

i recently went into the shopping mall in Hyllie, the 2nd stop after Copenhagen airport when you come by train and they have id checks there.

i was done shopping and had to show id for me to enter the train going into malmö.


unchecked borders? are you even serious right now?
as far as malmö being a ghetto... wow. i don't even know how to respond to that. it's a beautiful city, a clean and pretty city, glorious parks, glorious city centre for shopping, glorious residential areas, really really rich ones - with villas and mansions that is some of the most lavish ive seen - with literally THREE small areas of the city in which me, a born native, don't desire to go at night. in the day time it's STILL MILES AND MILES away from being anything close to a ghetto.

and those three areas is lindängen, seved, and rosengård. at day time they look like completely average residential areas.


you sir, are being brainwashed and you don't even have a clue.

Nothing but right wing anti Muslim spin..here is the real story not the right wing version.

Malmö police chief: 'Help us'

In the case of the murdered 16-year-old, for example, racist threats have been directed at pupils at his school on social media next to a picture of the boy lying dead on the ground. "They are scared. They are terrified and are wondering who's going to be shot next," a school principal told Sydsvenskan earlier this month.

This boy was Muslim

The boy's father, who moved with his family from Iraq to Sweden when Ahmed was seven years old, told newspaper Sydsvenskan that his son had wanted to become a doctor. "We fled war and misery to find a safe place. And then this happens," he said

Original Letter but translate

Malmö police are currently investigating eleven murders and eighty attempted murder. Add to that other crimes of violence, beatings, rapes, thefts and frauds. Stefan Sinteus We have in Malmö an upward spiral of large dimensions. Malmö police are currently investigating eleven murders and eighty attempted murder. Add to that other crimes of violence, beatings, rapes, thefts and frauds. It does, of course, that the police in Malmö is an extremely strained.

To manage the many serious crimes, we've made a local and a regional effort, where we focus all available resources in the region to investigate and deal with the situation we are currently in. This has resulted in that we now have over 130 employees who work exclusively with investigating these serious offenses in special investigative organizations and from the police special methodology for serious crimes. Many of the investigators working in parallel with a number of cases, which have historically proven to be beneficial in many investigations. Our employees are extremely dedicated and competent, and I know that every day they do their utmost to find and refer suspected perpetrators accountable for serious crimes affecting the citizens of our city.

We have also received reinforcement from the national direction. Several employees from the Police National Operations Department (NOA) came to Malmö during the last week, and additional employees are expected this week. There is a widespread understanding that we need strengthening in Malmö in the position we are in. Even if the situation is serious and the situation is by no means optimal, do this together anyway that I, as head of the police district of Malmö, feel a great trust and confidence that police will be able to handle the situation. In both the recent murder of 16-årigen as the attempted murder of 18-year-old on Saturday evening, we could with adequate resources to implement all the initial investigative measures that must be implemented in close connection with the crime. With the addition of employees from both the region and the rest of the country that joined later in the week we have the resources needed to handle even these investigations, then at the other serious violent criminal. The focus for the future of policing the South region's long-term resource reinforce the skills to investigate deadly force. Our priority is clear: we will work toward the coarse violence and with our investigative activities.

To reverse the trend, we will work vigorously with this in the spring in several different ways. It is not the individual police officer who chooses what he or she wants to work with, we have managers who oversee and manage the business and its employees. I have full confidence that they are doing this based on the given priorities, of which the most serious violent crime is top of the list. I can assure you that the police in Malmö are doing everything we can to suspected perpetrators to be held accountable. But we can not do it on their own. We depend on you, and your witness statements, in order to solve these violent crimes. Therefore I appeal now to you: help us. Help us to overcome the problems. Partner with us. Let's make Malmö a safe and secure city for children, adolescents and adults. Stefan Sintéus Chief Constable, head of the police district Malmo

Notice how the original story or letter says nothing about it being an immigrant problem.

a reply to: CulturalResilience

as i said i couldn't care less about people like you and what you believe of my hometown.
good riddens.
and don't give me that "unable to see" bs. pathetic.

originally posted by: SwagLord
a reply to: CulturalResilience

unchecked border madness?
wtf?
just recently a friend of my mother's, a Swedish woman in the 60s went into Copenhagen.
upon return she was stopped because her Id card had expired. she couldn't come into the country. her son had to go to Copenhagen airport where she was stuck and give her her passport for her to come in.

this happened to a POLICE OFFICER as well. he also didn't have his id with him for whatever reason. but he could prove he was a police officer in sweden but it didn't matter. he also had to had his passport given to him for him to enter.

i recently went into the shopping mall in Hyllie, the 2nd stop after Copenhagen airport when you come by train and they have id checks there.

i was done shopping and had to show id for me to enter the train going into malmö.


unchecked borders? are you even serious right now?
as far as malmö being a ghetto... wow. i don't even know how to respond to that. it's a beautiful city, a clean and pretty city, glorious parks, glorious city centre for shopping, glorious residential areas, really really rich ones - with villas and mansions that is some of the most lavish ive seen - with literally THREE small areas of the city in which me, a born native, don't desire to go at night. in the day time it's STILL MILES AND MILES away from being anything close to a ghetto.

and those three areas is lindängen, seved, and rosengård. at day time they look like completely average residential areas.


you sir, are being brainwashed and you don't even have a clue.

Read my last reply to you and then you sir, will see that your credibility regarding this subject just dropped through the floor.

Kind Regards.

a reply to: CulturalResilience

so what if you're not an American? who cares? and if you claim I'm not credible because I assumed you were then that's on you i couldn't care less what you think of my city. have fun believing the lies and I'll have fun living in my wonderful city that I hold close to my heart. good riddens to you.

originally posted by: SwagLord
a reply to: CulturalResilience

so what if you're not an American? who cares? and if you claim I'm not credible because I assumed you were then that's on you i couldn't care less what you think of my city. have fun believing the lies and I'll have fun living in my wonderful city that I hold close to my heart. good riddens to you.

The manor of your posting suggests you do care. The term is "Good Riddance" in English FYI.

But, but, but....Obama said that Assad was being heavy handed for bombing these cuties who were neither following Syrian law or Islam when they started their aggressive rebellion against Assad.

When the US took out Saddam Hussein we got ISIS. Better to go with the lesser of two evils and leave Assad in place.

a reply to: CulturalResilience

i care in the means of defending myself against accusations and personal attacks.
you tried to switch it all up - disregarding ANY and ALL information that i have first-hand of my experiences in MY hometown of Malmö simply because i was wrong in assuming you was American.
you made a big deal about that, and ONLY that, disregarding everything else ive said.
that to me is pathetic and that is something i do care about.

but as far as your views on my city i honestly couldnt care less, i live here, and have been for 34 years you havnt. who knows more about my city - you or me ? its pretty obvious. regardless of me falsely assuming you are american or not. (and that doesnt even matter. why make a big deal about that, instead of actually discussing my city)

and if you want to think im no longer credible because of that - I COULDNT CARE LESS! i dont care about you what so ever. the only reason i even reply to your comments is to let the other members know you are wrong .and if you want to get hung up on me assuming you are american (like its even a big deal ??) thats on YOU! and you are a sad sad person to try this tactic and you know it.

trying to assassinate my character cause i assumed you were american and you are not. lol. give me a break. when youre ready to talk about the issue at hnd you can do that but if you want to talk about my credibility then that is just pathetic, and everyone can see that.

originally posted by: SwagLord
a reply to: CulturalResilience

i care in the means of defending myself against accusations and personal attacks.
you tried to switch it all up - disregarding ANY and ALL information that i have first-hand of my experiences in MY hometown of Malmö simply because i was wrong in assuming you was American.
you made a big deal about that, and ONLY that, disregarding everything else ive said.
that to me is pathetic and that is something i do care about.

but as far as your views on my city i honestly couldnt care less, i live here, and have been for 34 years you havnt. who knows more about my city - you or me ? its pretty obvious. regardless of me falsely assuming you are american or not. (and that doesnt even matter. why make a big deal about that, instead of actually discussing my city)

and if you want to think im no longer credible because of that - I COULDNT CARE LESS! i dont care about you what so ever. the only reason i even reply to your comments is to let the other members know you are wrong .and if you want to get hung up on me assuming you are american (like its even a big deal ??) thats on YOU! and you are a sad sad person to try this tactic and you know it.

trying to assassinate my character cause i assumed you were american and you are not. lol. give me a break. when youre ready to talk about the issue at hnd you can do that but if you want to talk about my credibility then that is just pathetic, and everyone can see that.

I have not made one single personal remark about you despite the fact that you seem unable to reply to me without using insults. Are you as brave when you are not safely protected behind your keyboard?

a reply to: SwagLord

just recently a friend of my mother's, a Swedish woman in the 60s went into Copenhagen. upon return she was stopped because her Id card had expired. she couldn't come into the country. her son had to go to Copenhagen airport where she was stuck and give her her passport for her to come in. this happened to a POLICE OFFICER as well. he also didn't have his id with him for whatever reason. but he could prove he was a police officer in sweden but it didn't matter. he also had to had his passport given to him for him to enter.

Thank you for posting that information. I have had two recent run ins with government ID requirements, that have extended well beyond commonsense, and entered into the realm of ridiculousness. I have a Top Secret Security Clearance, a State ID, a Veteran ID, a County Department of Law Enforcement ID, a Professional ID issued by the State, and a Driver's License issue by my State for over 20 years, and due to changes put into place by Homeland Security, I caught hell trying to renew my Driver's License this year. Why? Because my name on my Birth Certificate didn't match the admittedly, valid Driver's License they had been issuing me for over 20 years, and the only form they would accept as validation of my Birth Certificate, did not exist 60+ years ago, so I can't give them a copy of a nonexistent document.

When I commented that I work with Advocates that assist with undocumented immigrants getting IDs and Driver's Licenses, without being put through the same unyielding restrictions, I was told that it didn't need to make sense because it was the government's rules. Three different people told me, "I don't make the rules, I just follow them."

I guess misery really does like company, but it made me feel better to know that I wasn't being singled out.

originally posted by: pale5218
a reply to: trollz

No argument from me. The situation in Europe has been ongoing and appears to be increasing. I think some of these countries tried to be as tolerant as possible but it has only worsened.

I like the action from Trump

It's true. And being a mud- blood myself (to borrow a Harry Potter term), half European half American, I just have one thing to say. The majority of Americans who are on their backs on diapers, kicking and crying with binkies in their mouths unable to cope with the idea of systematically getting and filtering incoming immigrants like 214 of the 215 countries on earth do...well, they like to think themselves tolerant but the idea and spirit of tolerance in some of these European nations is so deeply woven into the fabric of society, so celebrated, and so manifest everywhere you look as everywhere you go there is a visual and or tangible product of this major embracing of tolerance that it puts liberal Americans with their big words, loud words, and repeatedly posted on Facebook words to shame as they never put much energy into bringing about a real life product of their supposed concern. I dunno, my guess is that it is only possible in Europe since the last three generations all free up having lived through wars of total destrictiom, were raised by parents who did, or are reminded constantly of what happened the last time tolerance went out the window. Peoples like the Dutch, Nors, and Swedes have so long been the absolute embodiment of tolerance for all mankind. I mean, the Dutch recently even unveiling a statue to honor prostitutes, pornography actors, and other people in the sex industry. And modern ways of thinking are I'm all aspects of their society even in their monarchy, a seemingly archaic institution, constantly restructured to bring about absolute primogeniture for the monarch who is not coronated but inaugurated.

And as far as what they offered these refugees upon arrival. Sometimes far beyond anything that we could hope to give guests we were welcoming to the U.S. and ESPECIALLY Sweden where income tax is 82% which is not even comprehensible to those living in other western nations but giving every cent they make other than has and grocery money for any gives them a lifestyle that is just as unimaginable to others. I mean everything is taken care of in return. Of course now the country is broke but before the refugees imagine it, the best health care just sitting there for you if you need it, university of you'd like to do advanced studies, but all that's a given...but imagine even homelessness and poverty were things that just did not exist in Sweden because with such high taxes, even sons a guns who didn't work just cuz they didn't want to get a job were provided with apartments andoney for food clothes and toiletries. Drug addicts could take advantage of wonderful programs and families receive proper education about the truth of addiction so runaway kids prostituting and od'ing on the streets didn't have to be a problem for anyone life was just good. And anything you might need is provided gladly for you how? By your neighbors all pitching in to a system that reminds me of communism but somehow a system that works and builds a nation around true and sincere concern and car3 for all your fellow countrymen who all take care of one another.

My point, finally, is that those who want to welcome refugees here by the butt load don't understand just how tolerant and how selflessly giving these European people really are and how we couldn't even give a fraction to incoming refugees that these nations already have given them...and given to the point they have handed over the last pennies in their country's coffers just because they truly do believe in equality and tolerance and in ways that put Americans and their very popular words "freedom" "tolerance" "equality" and so on which rarely go beyond words, to shame. These immigrants were given everything and then some to the point they had nothing left to give and no, they do not have a new minority population of Muslim Deutsche whose kids are joining the local soccer team or Muslim Swedes who are donating to the community after really hitting it off and succeeding in their new found liberties and location. All there are are patches of totally separate from the community yet still totally demanding of the state and overly critical of any shortcomings or anything given in the past they feel entitled to that is no longer possible with the immigrants giving nothing back leaving the state broke which enrages them for being no longer offered and slowly the unassimilated community has become so fixated on what is NOT given to them they become restless and the native population is seen as the intolerant racist enemy and when that happens with a native population already hated and despised because of the Islamic idea of quffar and takfir and there are so many hidden camera videos on youtube, even schools given awards for tolerance and stuff when nobody is watching tell their students the same thing. That they will go to hell I'd they actually consider anyone of the host nation a friend or if they tolerate the people around them since they are commanded to smile and wave while hating every step they take and everyone they are quietly inside. Sheesh, there's even video of k- 12 schools giving lessons on how to take pplitpolite with the Americans or British people hosting but how to honestly feel the deepedeepest hate for them inside even if Satan is trying to make them feel those people are innocent neighbors who have done then no harm.

If they could not be won over and satisfied by what the Europeans have bent over backwards to do already, building then each a palace of gold and giving a black amex card to them as they enter a country won't satisfy them either. The sincerity and well meaning shown by the Swedes is worth so much more than gold, palaces, or limit free credit cards do i mean that quite literally. Nothing anyone does will be the magic action that "click" makes them fit in and assimilate and feel and act as part of the nation or willing to give anything back to it. They have only been ticks and leeches I am so sorry to say I never thought I would say something like that but it is true. And yes I understand the US is responsible for all they face at home but anyone who thinks that excuses being disrespectful to a nation of welcoming open arms is a fool

a reply to: trollz

Anyone notice that China isn't taking in refugees, but wants America to? Trump was right. They are smarter than our politicians. I am so glad he is in office.

The situation in Sweden is disturbing.

And it relates to America as well, with the protests and discussions of immigration and building the border wall with Mexico.

I like to ask anyone who is opposed to such things: "Do you live in a house or an apartment/townhome?"

When they reply with the obvious "Yes" I then ask them "Does your dwelling have a door?"

And when they respond yes once again, I like to remind them of how hypocritical they are. A door is just a moveable wall... Why would you put up a wall to keep outsiders from coming in? If free migration/immigration/no borders is so great for our country, why on Earth would you set a bad example for everyone by establishing a wall to your home?

You just go ahead, remove your doors and welcome everyone in. Let me know how that works out for you.

a reply to: SwagLord

Your experience reminds me of a good moral tale.

Form a local "Swedish" youtuber who shares his views on the crime and immigration/ integration challenges that Sweden experience today.

originally posted by: PageLC14
It really sucks because i have friends also that are saying "oh it's so sad! It's so racist! We need to do something!" But when presented with evidence like THIS they don't want to see it!! It's not about being RACIST, it's about protecting OURSELVES from possible threats which obviously include MIGRANT IMMIGRATION.

Statistics don't back up your claim. Racism is based on fear. This is all in response to a baseless fear that the people from these countries want to kill you.

Believe me.

You can't bring a group of people who have completely different ideas about how things work into an area like Sweden or USA. Have you seen how they treat woman and children. We are all infidels to them and don't matter. This is their way of life. They won't change it , they will just bring it with them.
We need to change the way we bring them in and resettle them.

a reply to: reaganero

I believe you, trust me. But not everyone who even remotely shares this point of view is xenophobic.

ETA: I'm not afraid of these people coming to kill me. I'm afraid that when they get here they're going to abuse the system provided for them because they don't understand how to properly utilize it.