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Donald Trump refugee ban: 'arrivals from targeted countries stopped at US airports'

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posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:21 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Creation of safe zones takes time and military action. What do we do for them in the meantime?




posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: everyone


Saudi Arabia and many of the more affluent middle eastern country have laws that ban their governments from taking any refugees, even if they share the same religion and way of life


Interestingly most people have not clue about that bit of information.

We can deduce from this practice that their agenda is to inundate the rest of the word with certain groups of middle eastern people while they keep their borders safe to spread their ideology.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: marg6043


That is one of the reason he was elected,


That doesn't make it smart.


if you don't like what he is doing, become a president

a ridiculous suggestion. And no.


and see what happen when you open the borders to everybody.

There is already a very lengthy vetting that is done for immigrants.


You will face the same end as the Democratic party did the last elections.


Which is ---- ?????



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

The first thing we need to do is figure out how to stop radicalization of people already living here, since that has proven to be the biggest threat - not refugees.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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We can deduce from this practice that their agenda is to inundate the rest of the word with certain groups of middle eastern people while they keep their borders safe to spread their ideology.


Really? Because other Muslim countries don't want them either it means that their entire agenda is to push them all into the US to kill all of us? This is very alarmist and not at all valid.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

Saudi Arabia is a hateful country that has little to no civil or human rights. THAT is why they do what they do.

We are not Saudi Arabia - at least we weren't. I have a feeling Trump and the right want us to be more like Saudi Arabia.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: everyone


Then when they do in fact execute mass murdering of people in islamic terrorist act, we still get called biggots and racists.

When did that happen?
I thought it was all home-grown nutjobs that mass murder people here. Even the Boston Bombers were citizens.

If we ban all foreigners, ISIS has won. It's not like they murdered all those people in Paris and then said, "well, that's that, then!" and closed things down.

The decimation of our world heritage, and the slaughter and displacement of civilians is horrendous. It's no different from any other war of aggression in history.




When had a major US city been attacked by aircraft killing over 3,000 citizens before 9/11?
A President can not wait for the death of citizens to act. He has a responsibility to keep Americans safe. He has already said that some refugees are involved with or have been arrested relating to terrorism. He would be derelict in his duty to wait for a major incident.

The fact is there is a solution that does not require the mass influx of refugees to the US. You, and other people who have a beef with Trump, seem to be ignoring it and also what is best for refugees, just because you want to attack Trump. I ask, do you REALLY care about the refugees at all?


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posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Its nothing discriminatory for a leader to keep the people and country he was elected and represent safe. That is one of the reason he was elected, if you don't like what he is doing, become a president and see what happen when you open the borders to everybody.

You will face the same end as the Democratic party did the last elections.

End of rant.



Interestingly they also seem to forget that the last thing Trump wants is to continue to bring "democrazy" and "peace" to these countries and end the policing the U.S has done. All of which created this mess in the first place, they have obama to thank for Syria and he did nothing to elevate the problem. When the russians came in more ISIS members were removed from the theater in 2 weeks then obama ever did in 2 years , not to mention that obama bombed more people then bush ever managed to do. If we stop doing that then there will be no need anymore to house these people.

Trump at least truly wants to pull the U.S out of these places and not stir up wars like we did in the last 16 years and we also do not accept anymore economical refugee's from ghana and zimbabwe iraq and anywhere else where they have nothing to do with what is going on in syria. There are real syrian refugee's that have expressed on camera that they almost see no syrian refugees among them but they do see a lot of "refugees" from just about any ohter country in the world.

Funny though because the moment you say something against the "refugee's" some loon will come forward and say "but but...those poor syrians" well guess what, most of those are still in syria while you flood the world with people from just about anywhere else. Living the lie.

It is because of people like that that the people who the help was really intended for (or how it was sold to us anyway) are not getting it even till this day.

Its a joke and it needs to stop.



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posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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You forget that the people been radicalized in the US is the same people that came as refugees from certain way of life and religion, once they are citizens or born from refugees parents the government call them Americans, but are they really Americans, born in the US with any loyalties, love and acceptance of our American way of life?.

Radicalization will happen at one point in our society, but we don't need to add more danger inviting that radicalization into our nation at the expenses of innocent America citizens, voters and tax payers.

That is unacceptable.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: marg6043

Saudi Arabia is a hateful country that has little to no civil or human rights. THAT is why they do what they do.

We are not Saudi Arabia - at least we weren't. I have a feeling Trump and the right want us to be more like Saudi Arabia.


I think it has become palpably obvious what you care about.
You ignore what refugees are actually saying they want and you ignore the solutions put forward by Trump, which happen to be in line with what refugees want.
You are only interested in the politics.
I know exactly what your response would be if another terrorist attack was committed against the USA. You'd be moaning about Trump not keeping America safe.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: marg6043

The first thing we need to do is figure out how to stop radicalization of people already living here, since that has proven to be the biggest threat - not refugees.


Fortunately you are not President, because that is a lousy idea.
You do both at the same time, obviously.
You also get cracking on the safe zones and a workable plan to return people to their country - exactly where they want to be.

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posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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Not every Muslim who comes here is a refugee, Marg. Some Muslims are 3rd and 4th generation Americans. How long have you and your ancestors been American?

Gun deaths will happen in our society too. Does that mean we don't need to add more danger by allowing more guns to be bought?



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: marg6043

Saudi Arabia is a hateful country that has little to no civil or human rights. THAT is why they do what they do.

We are not Saudi Arabia - at least we weren't. I have a feeling Trump and the right want us to be more like Saudi Arabia.


Then it is indeed time to end the U.N because the saudi's are the ones running the Human Rights Council in the U.N and according to that they also score higher then the U.S for a long time already.

www.globalresearch.ca...


United Nations Farce: Saudi Arabia to Head UN Human Rights Council


So if you have issues with human rights, Saudi arabia is who you will need to direct your bs to. Human rights have been extended by the U.S, it got abused and now its being shut down because of that. Deal with it.


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posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: everyone


Saudi Arabia and many of the more affluent middle eastern country have laws that ban their governments from taking any refugees, even if they share the same religion and way of life


Interestingly most people have not clue about that bit of information.

We can deduce from this practice that their agenda is to inundate the rest of the word with certain groups of middle eastern people while they keep their borders safe to spread their ideology.





Its good to see someone else being aware of that fact it really is. Its true and it is also covered in the link i shared earlier and for them it is indeed a win-win because they get to avoid the security risk and at the same time have their religion spread out all through the west and all they need to do is claim "but it is our law".

Luckily our law is in the process to adapt to it.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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There are refugees who have applied to be here. They have filled out the paperwork. They have done the interviews. They have provided all required information. They have willingly gone through the extensive vetting process. Because they are trying to find sanctuary here. And Trump is refusing them. Cuz Muslims r bad.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: marg6043

Not every Muslim who comes here is a refugee, Marg. Some Muslims are 3rd and 4th generation Americans. How long have you and your ancestors been American?

Gun deaths will happen in our society too. Does that mean we don't need to add more danger by allowing more guns to be bought?


Another stupid argument. Bans and extreme vetting are not designed to reduce all crime in America. Accepting more risks just because you have violence already would be stunningly stupid, especially when other options are preferred and more workable.

Dealing with the radicalization of existing Muslims in America is a separate exercise, which has also been discussed by the Administration.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
Yes apparently he has the power to force innocent Syrian families to continue to be blown up to bits while refusing to offer them any kind of sanctuary.

Sad.

Screw them! Seriously. I am so sick of people defending these BS "refugees". They're not refugees. They're coming here and turning THIS country into THAT country. Think I'm wrong? Look at honor killing cases. Look at Michigan shariah law developments. Look at (somewhat related) Muslims in Canada getting away with stuff that real Canadians get charged with.

Stay in their own damn country and fix it their! They aren't innocent. They're no more innocent than Americans are for the crime here. This is the bed we all made. Now we sleep in ours, and they theirs.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: UKTruth

There are refugees who have applied to be here. They have filled out the paperwork. They have done the interviews. They have provided all required information. They have willingly gone through the extensive vetting process. Because they are trying to find sanctuary here. And Trump is refusing them. Cuz Muslims r bad.


Some are always going to be caught 'in process'. Unfortunate but unavoidable.
They can be sent to safe zones and then return to their homes when the trouble has ended.



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Right, so we should ban all guns then, because not doing so would just be accepting more risk, which would be stunningly stupid, right?

I haven't seen squat from this administration about dealing with radicalization. Meanwhile, refugees who have asked to come here are being told "too bad for you - sorry, not sorry".



posted on Jan, 28 2017 @ 09:45 AM
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THERE ARE NO SAFE ZONES FOR THEM TO GO TO!!!!



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