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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: AMPTAH
What if a person does not get that something that is planted to enter the fold? What happens to them?
By "fold" do you mean christianity? or any religion?
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? -- KJV, Matthew 7:22
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. -- KJV, Matthew 7:23
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. -- KJV, John 14:2
originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: Akragon
There is a reason that you are annoyed, just like my ex wife is. Has nothing to do with me. Galations and Ephesions will explain that one clearly
originally posted by: ttobban
a reply to: veracity
Again, 12 steps is not the only path to sobriety. I was raised to drink essentially, with consumption turning to alarming levels in my teen years. I chose cold turkey, and barely ever have even a sip of alcohol. I could not even list the 12 steps if asked to.
Bless the 12 steps for those who found success in it though... I don't wish addiction on anyone.