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Is The Nouveau Swan King a Dying Duck Already?

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posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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Only a few days or so ago, Trump pledged to rebuild the American infrastructure, in that creating jobs...many many jobs, a bit like the wall I suppose.
Inauguration day,
* " During his inauguration speech, President Donald Trump vowed to bring back “jobs” and “wealth,” in part by investing in a range of infrastructure projects."
“We will build new roads and highways and bridges and airports and tunnels and railways all across our wonderful nation,” he said to the crowd gathered on the Mall. “We will get our people off of welfare and back to work, rebuilding our country with American hands and American labor.”
It does sound good at first cry, but what does his team think of it, for that matter what does the house think of it?
Andrew Puzder, * "You don't build roads and bridges to create jobs," Puzder said to the Adam Smith Society in the February, (2016) speech. "That's 'Field of Dreams' economics"
Accoding to Trump, that's $1 trillion over ten years investment on infrastructure alone. Across party lines, yea, yea.

It's plain to see that some areas roads are more akin to bomb sites, it should have never have been that way, and all the other areas that Trump has talked about as investment, should not have been that way either..it's called controlled maintenance. However that is not really what I am getting at. Puzder is an employer, doesn't pretty much like any minimum wage, not $10, definitely not $15, but does actually like immigrant labour, a bit like Donald actually. So, how many American jobs are really going to be created in the long run, there were 6000 jobs projected by Donald in Aberdeen, Scotland ten or more years ago, the reality to date, a couple of hundred, give or take. It fooled the SNP government at the time, some measures still in place though. Thoughts anyone.

money.cnn.com...

A bit older,
www.denverpost.com...

*Various sources.
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posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: smurfy
I wouldn't say he's a dying duck.

I voted for him but I'm not going to lie I'm quite skeptical and a little edgy seeing as he can't keep his mouth shut and says dumb things.

That being said he's being extremely aggressive, and for filled at least starting campaign promises in days more faster than any other president I've seen. So I don't think a dying duck.

Like what he's doing or not other presidents should take note in the future. Wherever you stand we're in debt and trouble and the mediocre and lack of accountability in the past got us here.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: smurfy

Donald Trump is always full of promises about how great something is going to be. Sometimes it's that education from Trump University, sometimes it's the Wall that Mexico wouldn't and shouldn't pay for and sometimes it's as-if-by-magic revitalization!

Hartford Courant - Trump Park Complex Planned In Bridgeport (June 03, 1994):

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BRIDGEPORT — Casino magnate Donald Trump promised Thursday to make the city a national tourist destination by building a $350 million combined amusement park, shipping terminal and seaport village and office complex on the east side of the harbor.

At a press conference during which almost every statement contained the term ``world class,'' Trump and Mayor Joseph Ganim lavished praise on one another and the development project and spoke of restoring Bridgeport to its glory days

Even the roller coaster proposed for Trump Park would be the world's biggest, one of Trump's lawyers said.

``It's going to be a great thing for Bridgeport,'' Trump said. ``We're looking at something that's really going to be a revitalization for Bridgeport.''

Trump said the apartments he built in New York are the best in the world and so are his three casinos in Atlantic City. He promised that Trump Park would be the world's best development of its kind.

``I'm coming to Bridgeport and I'm putting my name on Bridgeport and that is a very big step for me,'' he said. ``It's going to be so world class, so beautiful that it is going to attract people.''


He boasted then about his three casinos in AC and of course, none of them remain. The last one to bear his name, the Taj Mahal, was finally shuttered by billionaire buddy Carl Icahn in October. I find that ironic.

And do you want to know how popular Donald Trump isn't among people in Atlantic City these days? Look at the election results for Atlantic County. In Atlantic City: Clinton: 8,418 vs Trump: 1,800.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: smurfy
I wouldn't say he's a dying duck.

I voted for him but I'm not going to lie I'm quite skeptical and a little edgy seeing as he can't keep his mouth shut and says dumb things.

That being said he's being extremely aggressive, and for filled at least starting campaign promises in days more faster than any other president I've seen. So I don't think a dying duck.

Like what he's doing or not other presidents should take note in the future. Wherever you stand we're in debt and trouble and the mediocre and lack of accountability in the past got us here.

Fair enough , that's your call. Me, I don't like that little people to be hurt or conned, but I do think that America is in the hands of a con artist.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: smurfy

Problem is, where is the money going to come from if the rich are going to be getting a tax break?

Look at states like Pennsylvania:


Major items that Pennsylvania does not tax: food (except for ready-to-eat), most clothing apparel, textbooks, drugs, sales for resale items and residential heating fuels. Pennsylvania provides a Retailer's Information Guide with a list of taxable items in the state.


Then look at their roads they're horrible, bridges, sewer & gas pipes.

I mean the states that do tax have infrastructure issues.

Canada taxes liquor and pays for their UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE that INCLUDES DENTAL!

We're still in the stone ages or I mean greed ages.

It seems that were in for a interesting ride, I mean along the lines of currency change, income change, war or civil unrest, I wish this was doom porn but this is just common sense and looking forward. People aren't getting better, look at many of the repeat threads here to get a feel of that aspect.

Many have already been divided and conquered,

It's more plausible for corporations to take over than it is for our current system to work itself out, people just don't understand the system enough.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian




BRIDGEPORT — Casino magnate Donald Trump promised Thursday to make the city a national tourist destination by building a $350 million combined amusement park, shipping terminal and seaport village and office complex on the east side of the harbor.


hey, let's just build a large amusement park on the border instead... looks much cheaper!! it can have an awesome fun house that has a maze, and tunnels, that exits at mexico city...



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: theantediluvian




BRIDGEPORT — Casino magnate Donald Trump promised Thursday to make the city a national tourist destination by building a $350 million combined amusement park, shipping terminal and seaport village and office complex on the east side of the harbor.


hey, let's just build a large amusement park on the border instead... looks much cheaper!! it can have an awesome fun house that has a maze, and tunnels, that exits at mexico city...


Perhaps a few trees close by to the wall, driller killers, brown envelope factories, but hey, just going by the given dialogue, a wall is a deterrent....Er, no it's not.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: Tranceopticalinclined

We have free health care in Canada but dental is not free and most are on a dental insurance plan. America can pay for a lot if it slows the corruption and spends a little less on the military.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 10:56 PM
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originally posted by: Slickinfinity
America can pay for a lot if it slows the corruption and spends a little less on the military.


The problem is, our military is a massive out of control welfare system. We pay people to sit around collecting government checks all day, doing jobs that don't need doing. It doesn't have to be this way, China for example makes their military build domestic projects during peacetime. It keeps the soldiers in shape and doing something productive. What they build is anything from islands to bridges.

I think that if we were serious about fixing infrastructure in the US we would do the same thing and put our military to work rebuilding it all. It's better than having troops sit on base all day doing nothing.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: Slickinfinity

WOW, dental isn't part of medical there either?

That's insanity, it's DIRECTLY connected to your heart and brain. Have an infection too long in a tooth and you can suffer a stroke, heart attack or worse a brain infection.

I think it's inhumane to make humans suffer medical issues because they are poor, but it's a criminal act to make them suffer a dental issue while not calling it a medical issue.

and some people think GOD put us here? That's cold...
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posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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Is he still making his ties in China??



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: Tranceopticalinclined
a reply to: smurfy

Problem is, where is the money going to come from if the rich are going to be getting a tax break?

Look at states like Pennsylvania:


Major items that Pennsylvania does not tax: food (except for ready-to-eat), most clothing apparel, textbooks, drugs, sales for resale items and residential heating fuels. Pennsylvania provides a Retailer's Information Guide with a list of taxable items in the state.


Then look at their roads they're horrible, bridges, sewer & gas pipes.

I mean the states that do tax have infrastructure issues.

Canada taxes liquor and pays for their UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE that INCLUDES DENTAL!

We're still in the stone ages or I mean greed ages.

It seems that were in for a interesting ride, I mean along the lines of currency change, income change, war or civil unrest, I wish this was doom porn but this is just common sense and looking forward. People aren't getting better, look at many of the repeat threads here to get a feel of that aspect.

Many have already been divided and conquered,

It's more plausible for corporations to take over than it is for our current system to work itself out, people just don't understand the system enough.

It's the spiel that puts money into the wrong pockets. Everyone says this and that about the politique, then sometimes they look at the pay cheque and grumble a bit about how much tax was paid, but for what? nobody has a real clue. Here we have a President who wants to spend 'somebody's' money on stupid, but doesn't mention how much tax he has paid..except that he's smart that way.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 11:20 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879
Is he still making his ties in China??


He still has an ambassador there, all the rest bar a couple were sacked immediately, so some kind of a tie.
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posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 11:52 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Slickinfinity
America can pay for a lot if it slows the corruption and spends a little less on the military.


The problem is, our military is a massive out of control welfare system. We pay people to sit around collecting government checks all day, doing jobs that don't need doing. It doesn't have to be this way, China for example makes their military build domestic projects during peacetime. It keeps the soldiers in shape and doing something productive. What they build is anything from islands to bridges.

I think that if we were serious about fixing infrastructure in the US we would do the same thing and put our military to work rebuilding it all. It's better than having troops sit on base all day doing nothing.


If you think that's bad, you should check out what we are paying to the welfare side of the nation. Maybe we should take those people that we are paying to sit on their asses doing nothing on our dime and put them to work. You know... put in 40 hours a week and if you do it 4 times in a month then you'll get your EBT card filled and your free housing and utilities and medical expenses paid. Taxpayers are literally paying them to breath, procreate and vote Democrat. Let's get some value from them.

People in the military are still getting shot and blown up overseas right now. Perhaps we can get rid of two birds with one stone and put the welfare class into a quick boot camp and then ship them to find IED's on a road in Afghanistan.

Let's use those wasted tax dollars appropriately!!!


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posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 12:11 AM
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a reply to: GreyScale

you can't even get food stamps in my state unless you either have at least a part time job or are putting hours in community service. and many are already working 40 hours. as far as I know the only exception with the work requirement for food stamps is if they are the single parent of small children or disabled. also, I would like to point out that if you are single parent you are already putting way more than 40 hours of work into your week! work, that if they aren't available to do, someone else will have to be found to do it and they will want to be paid! child care is expensive, could just be possible that it would be cheaper to hire someone to do the job and let the mom stay at home and take care of her kid herself.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 12:40 AM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: GreyScale

you can't even get food stamps in my state unless you either have at least a part time job or are putting hours in community service. and many are already working 40 hours. as far as I know the only exception with the work requirement for food stamps is if they are the single parent of small children or disabled. also, I would like to point out that if you are single parent you are already putting way more than 40 hours of work into your week! work, that if they aren't available to do, someone else will have to be found to do it and they will want to be paid! child care is expensive, could just be possible that it would be cheaper to hire someone to do the job and let the mom stay at home and take care of her kid herself.


Um... if you are a single parent and on welfare you are not putting in 40 hours a week. What you are doing is called being a parent... I shouldn't have to pay you to raise your child.

Additionally, the state you live in appears to be a state not in the United States because you don't need to satisfy any work requirement at all to get in to welfare. It's a Federal Program, btw. I've been there and done that. You just need to have a child. Or say you have odd pains in your joints and can't sleep at night and sometimes you see wolves talking to each other and ~BAM~! ... you have a little card that gets you groceries and a check that pays for your other habits and maybe a place to live.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: Slickinfinity
a reply to: Tranceopticalinclined

We have free health care in Canada but dental is not free and most are on a dental insurance plan. America can pay for a lot if it slows the corruption and spends a little less on the military.

You have a point.
We built 20 B2 bombers in1997 at a cost of close to one billion dollars each. The stealth is Hugh yes Donny yuge and carries a very heavy payload. It flies really really high and was designed to deliver a nuke deep into Russian territory before being spotted. It's radar proof or something. Big capabilities. Very expensive.
We have twenty.
These planes have flown five missions . Yup just five . Most of them have never been deployed. at a billion a piece.

That's what? Smart planning?



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:14 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
These planes have flown five missions . Yup just five . Most of them have never been deployed. at a billion a piece.

That's what? Smart planning?


Yes, absolutely. I'd much rather have these capabilities than not, wouldn't you? Peace through strength. Having a strong military is one of the few things the government should actually be spending money on. The vast majority of taxpayer money the government spends, the government has no business spending.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:15 AM
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a reply to: Tranceopticalinclined

This is a major concern that really needs to change. Why our mouths are considered separate from the rest of our bodies.is a mystery to me. Especially since oral health bears so strongly on the health of the rest. From nutrition concerns if teeth are missing to heart disease caused by plaque buildup. Yup same plaque. Teeth or arteries. It will kill you. Dental health is people health and people health is dental health . (To bastardize a phrase )
Smoking can cause periodontal disease . They cover self abuse when it attacks the heart and lungs but not the mouth???



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:22 AM
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maybe a place to live.


well, if you don't have a place to live, you ain't getting anything. I guess could find a ways around this maybe even a couple that are legal..




Additionally, the state you live in appears to be a state not in the United States because you don't need to satisfy any work requirement at all to get in to welfare.


www.nytimes.com...

maybe during times when your state is in severe recession!! I spent close to a year after my husband passed away with no income... I know what my state requires!




Or say you have odd pains in your joints and can't sleep at night and sometimes you see wolves talking to each other and ~BAM~!


hey, I do have pain in my joints and can't sleep many nights.. no wolves though. and it wasn't just me that agreed that I couldn't keep going on doing the last significant job... my boss agreed with me and well, I was unemployed because I could do it. while my husband was alive it really didn't matter as much, we just downsized and cut back. but when he passed, well we didn't have that much saved up and it took me nine months trying to figure out that social security was my only hope, make several calls to social security and have them finally tell me that they could have their doctor examine me so I wouldn't need any recent medical records. since, well, my medical records are spread out between two states and the last time I tried, most of them never made it to social security... get the exam and approved and get a little money...




Um... if you are a single parent and on welfare you are not putting in 40 hours a week.


no, you are on call 24/7, and if those kids are small, might be living on less than 4 hours of sleep sometimes.... geez, and people wonder why women don't want to have babies!!




What you are doing is called being a parent... I shouldn't have to pay you to raise your child.


well I am sorry, there's that kid, see him over there? just two years old. he needs eyes on him practically every minute he's awake or he's sure to find something he shouldn't be getting into, such a curious little thing he is! and, he's gonna need someone to clean up his messes and change his clothes when he has an accident. He's gonna need someone there to feed him his lunch, put him down for a nap, read him a story, and teach him how to grow up to be a civilized man! and, if momma has to be at work for 40 hours a week at a job that doesn't even pay her enough to cover the childcare, well.... YOU ARE PAYING HER NOT ONLY WHAT YOU WERE PAYING HER BEFORE SHE GOT THE JOB, BUT MORE TO COVER THE EXTRA COST OF THE CHILDCARE!!



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