a reply to: Davg80
Whose consciousness are you referring to? The consciousness of an eternal conscious being cannot be the result of creation or design, that would be a
logical contradiction (if the being in question was created or designed, he/she/it isn't eternal, and if he/she/it is eternal they cannot have been
created and designed to begin to exist; eternal and created, i.e. having a beginning, don't go together in this sense).
The consciousness that human beings have is the result of creation and design, so also the result of the consciousness of another.
The process of designing always requires a specific type and level of intelligence (and several other factors such as foresight and consciousness)
that corresponds with whatever is designed. It is a bit redundant to have to remind people of that in the term "intelligent design" as if one can talk
about another kind of design (not requiring this type and level of intelligence). Fantasies from philosophical naturalists about what '(Mother)
Nature' is capable of in this regards don't count in rational honest conversations about reality, that which is factual/true.
To avoid your mind being affected too much by triggerwords or terms like "intelligent design" (possibly triggering thoughts of false reasonings,
twisted understanding, use of language or logic and arguments that are being spread via "the system of things" and "the spirit of the world"; see my
other commentary on ATS for those terms), just ignore the word "intelligent", that one is a given when someone says "design" (otherwise it's not a
design). In case it was video 3 in that playlist that triggered your question about it, just keep going, once you get to Newton, you'll begin hearing
the best explanations regarding these subjects with less triggerwords.
Oh, btw, consciousness belongs to individuals, not unconscious things like the universe, the earth or nature. If anyone needs help undoing their
Platonic indoctrination by this system of things, checkout the videos about Plato and his promoters, fans and followers in the playlist, nr. 37-41
(but you may want to see 35 and 36 as well to contrast Newton's methodology to that of Aristotle, Plato's protegé and Descartes, promoter and fan of
Plato and his religious philosophies involving pantheism and Mother Nature/Gaia-worship, or guys like Spinoza doing the same thing but rebranding it
to "Deism", "Spinozism" and other terminologies).
edit on 8-2-2017 by whereislogic because: (no reason given)