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Trump Wants 20% Import Tax to Pay for Wall With Mexico

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posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:36 AM
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originally posted by: mzinga

You mean Bush's Stimulus where Obama inherits the stimulus and people blame him for the debt?? Oh ya that one.



Obama spent it and not too wisely. You didn't answer my question...why are we debating 12B for so long...




posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: xuenchen

Tariff's aren't free market adjustments. It's just the opposite, getting government involved to weaken your competitors products because you can't make something desirable yourself.


Actually tariffs would weaken the US more so because it hits the COnsumer. The way you get lower prices and better deals is competition not tariffs. Give better incentives to businesses here instead. but dont put tariffs on imports.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 04:35 AM
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Has everyone in this nation gone completely mad?

Does no one realize that walls don't just keep people out?

They keep people in as well!

And then there's planes, folks. Most illegal immigrants come over on planes. We're FAR beyond the days a wall does a damn thing other than cost a ridiculous amount of $$



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: gottaknow
Has everyone in this nation gone completely mad?

Does no one realize that walls don't just keep people out?

They keep people in as well!

And then there's planes, folks. Most illegal immigrants come over on planes. We're FAR beyond the days a wall does a damn thing other than cost a ridiculous amount of $$


Gottaknow how you think our military will stand with a goverment who mistreats its people so bad that it becomes a concern. Our military woudnt stand for it.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

I have no idea.

Why are we debating 55 million to bring clean tap water to Flint, MI? That's .458 of a percent of the minimum cost of the wall.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: gottaknow
Has everyone in this nation gone completely mad?

Does no one realize that walls don't just keep people out?

They keep people in as well!

And then there's planes, folks. Most illegal immigrants come over on planes. We're FAR beyond the days a wall does a damn thing other than cost a ridiculous amount of $$


Well that is so clever isn't it.

Here's a new conspiracy:

Mexico's wild screaming tantrums about the wall is actually controlled opposition !!

Mexico wants the wall to keep people in !!

They have lost billion$ because of lost citizens !!

I bet they've already sent a down payment remittance to the U.S. Treasury.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: Xtrozero

I have no idea.

Why are we debating 55 million to bring clean tap water to Flint, MI? That's .458 of a percent of the minimum cost of the wall.


Another political mess, just do it.... lol Obama gave like 3 billion to one solar company that didn't make it past his first term...that's a lot of clean water I would say...



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:41 PM
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OK scholars and economists...

How did the U.S. experience economic booms in the 1950s and 1960s with low imports from China and Mexico ?




posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:43 PM
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20% is way too much to start. Better to start low, maybe 5% max and raise it incrementally.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Sure. Let's go ahead and kick start the coming recession a bit quicker.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:47 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
OK scholars and economists...

How did the U.S. experience economic booms in the 1950s and 1960s with low imports from China and Mexico ?




Well for one, America was the only country on the planet with a built up manufacturing base that it could easily switch from war time production to peace time production.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
OK scholars and economists...

How did the U.S. experience economic booms in the 1950s and 1960s with low imports from China and Mexico ?






Vietnam...America in the business of War, remember? Business was good back then!



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

But GDP has been in the Trillions for decades.

Military spending factors in, but not enough to support your claims.


a reply to: Krazysh0tHow does that explain anything ?


The 50s and 60s had high wages too.

How was that possible?




posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen



The 50s and 60s had high wages too.

How was that possible?



Unions....but that's mostly gone now with the corporate oligarchy in complete control. I wonder how much the contractors will pay the wall builders that actually do the work? I'm betting to increase the bottom line the contractors will use illegals for below min. wage.

Capitalism rawks....


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posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: olaru12

But GDP has been in the Trillions for decades.

Military spending factors in, but not enough to support your claims.


a reply to: Krazysh0tHow does that explain anything ?


The 50s and 60s had high wages too.

How was that possible?



90% top marginal rates on income taxes were good for keeping wealth inequality low.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

The Unions are weaker today because of jobs lost to foreign countries and increased importing.

Still doesn't explain how the U.S. economy was better in the 50s and 60s with less importing from China and Mexico.




posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

90% top marginal rates on income taxes were good for keeping wealth inequality low.


I don't think so. There were more write-offs in those days.

Can you do an in depth facts & figures post?




posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Aazadan

90% top marginal rates on income taxes were good for keeping wealth inequality low.


I don't think so. There were more write-offs in those days.

Can you do an in depth facts & figures post?



I could, but you would just respond with those figures being alternative facts and dismiss them rather than question your own beliefs.



posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Krazysh0tHow does that explain anything ?


The 50s and 60s had high wages too.

How was that possible?


Easy. A progressive tax rate that reached up to 90% that encouraged businesses to reinvest into their companies. Too bad that is too Socialist to re-implement these days huh?
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posted on Jan, 27 2017 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Aazadan

90% top marginal rates on income taxes were good for keeping wealth inequality low.


I don't think so. There were more write-offs in those days.

Can you do an in depth facts & figures post?



I could, but you would just respond with those figures being alternative facts and dismiss them rather than question your own beliefs.


Check.

I thought there was no explanation.




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