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originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: soficrow
In the daily press briefing yesterday, Spicer said that this order did NOT come from Trump or the White House.
He said he understands that the order came from within their own departments, and that they were requesting people to follow existing policies, because people were violating them.
originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: verschickter
The press says government ordered it, the government says the agencies themselves put this in place. So what do we do now?
March with the scientists of course. They know exactly what they're up against. AND what to do.
Scientists planning massive march in DC
Government science goes rogue on Twitter
...The AltUSNatParkService Twitter account (@AltNatParkSer) was launched on Tuesday, announcing that it has been “activated in time of war and censorship to ensure fact-based education.” As of Thursday morning, they have 980,000 followers — more than double the number of followers on the main National Park Service account (381,000).
The account introduced itself with defiant messages: “Mr Trump, you may have taken us down officially. But with scientific evidence & the Internet our message will get out,” and “Respect goes out to our brothers and sisters at the @BadlandsNPS. When they silence you, we will speak for you.”
I could list any number of fields where the consensus of science is fundamentally wrong. From the very foundation of our views on matter, energy and consciousness to ufology, race, gender studies and ancient history. As well as the academic consensus on geopolitics, politics and international power relations. The accepted view on all of these subjects is still exoteric and still lacking in depth.
originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: soficrow
Well I believe it and salute them for it.
Trying to silence science you don't agree with is worrying.
originally posted by: MALBOSIA
In Canada, if you are working with government money to do scientific research, you cannot publicize the results without consent from the federal government.
Of course our government would withhold anything that contests the climate change narrative.
FAQ: The issues around muzzling government scientists
Federal scientists have been restricted from publicly talking about their research, they claim
For years, the Conservative government has been accused of "muzzling" federal scientists by controlling who they're allowed to talk to and what they can say about their own research.
...In 2006, the Harper government introduced strict procedures around how its scientists are allowed to speak about their research to the media.
Canadian scientists offer support to muzzled US counterparts
For nine years under Canada’s previous government, science suffered harsh restrictions. Now US scientists may be facing a similar fate
Muzzled scientists? Trudeau carries on just like Harper
If Stephen Harper muzzled federal government scientists, then Justin Trudeau has failed to lift the muzzle, a federal public sector union says...
..."a communications policy was issued by (the Trudeau government) with the intention to end 'muzzling' but its implementation remains uneven across science-based departments," PIPSC says in a submission to Finance Minister Bill Morneau.
...During the Harper years, some scientists complained they were forbidden from discussing their research, could not attend academic conferences, and that some had to wait weeks -- months, even -- for approval to speak publicly about their work.
[NOTE: This coverage looks like a fight against budget cuts.]
Like many here, you treat direct quotes -be it a headline or quoted statement- as if the quotes are the posters' own words.
In this case, you credited me with a statement made by renowned physicist Stephen Hawking (thanks btw),...
... removed his name, and edited it for "accuracy-according-to-verschickter" - without even mentioning him.
WARNING: verschickter GASLIGHTING
Trump administration clampdowns on research agencies worry scientists
Chaos, confusion reign over how far-reaching, long-lasting directives are
Some restrictions are normal in a transition, …Putting a hold on making policy statements is one of those.
Withholding scientific results is not, and that fear looms, says Rosenberg, who now directs the Center for Science and Democracy at the Union of Concerned Scientists in Cambridge, Mass. Banning the release and discussion of research and data would directly violate the various scientific integrity policies that guide federal agencies. Among other things, these policies state that federal scientists may speak to the media and public about their work. The EPA’s policy also says: “To operate an effective science and regulatory agency like the EPA, it is also essential that political or other officials not suppress or alter scientific findings.”
“Science isn’t intended to reflect a new administration. Science is intended to reflect data and evidence,” Rosenberg says.