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Trump orders weekly publication of crimes committed by illegals in sanctuary cities

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posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 12:24 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
Why not just report about all crimes rather than target certain groups like that???



I agree. This is just divide and conquer method . To make one group singled out vs other instead of all criminals. This will create a lot of tensions within the society, may be thats the idea.




posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 12:39 AM
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originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: mOjOm

so what, they are criminals by the mere fact that they are here illegally if they don`t like reporting of the crimes they commit while being here illegally they can go the hell back where they came from.
They wouldn`t even be here to commit those additional crimes if the sanctuary cities weren`t committing a crime by allowing them to stay here.

so, we have all these crimes being committed but you want law abiding people to feel guilty for bring attention to the crimes and criminals.



I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it shows an obvious agenda and bias by singling out them as a group of criminals as if that needs to be done for some reason. Why not just report on all crimes rather than focus on those specifically??

Can't you see how it's just leading people??? Put some other demographic in there that you don't already hate and maybe you'll get it.

Crime News shouldn't be politicized like that. What purpose does that serve??? What if we decided to focus on just Black crime would that be cool too??? No, of course not. It's no difference here.

All I'm saying is to not be biased about it. It should be impartial and fair and unbiased. I would think you would support that.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 12:42 AM
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a reply to: jellyrev

Yes you can get the information by looking it up and doing some research. I'm not saying to censor it. But what this is doing is trying to focus on it. Don't you see that??

Trump is leading the nations attention on a certain group of people to instill the idea that they are the enemy. "Here, look at them especially."

I seem to remember someone focused on the Jews in the past in a similar way.


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posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 12:42 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm

Crime News shouldn't be politicized like that. What purpose does that serve???


To show how much crime illegals commit, and if they weren't here, how much crime Americans wouldn't have to deal with.


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posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 12:45 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

a reply to: VimanaExplorer

Since when did people sneaking in from other Countries become just a certain group, like they have the same rights and privledges?

Black, White, Christian, Muslim, Female, Male, Illegal Alien.. one of those terms is vastly different.

If they want to be treated equally, they can formally ask to join the United States. If not, they can respect the border.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 12:46 AM
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There's a little box they check on police reports for race.

Kind of weird, but it must have a purpose....?



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 12:47 AM
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Thats gonna be one very loooooooooonnnnggg list .



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

Crime is crime. This is trying to demonize specific people.

What about all the illegals here who aren't committing crimes other than being here illegally??? The ones who work every day and don't do anything wrong. You think they'll be automatically assumed the same as the ones committing violent crimes??? Of course they will be.

Do you not see how it's geared to purposefully lead your perception to suit an agenda???



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 12:58 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

My only agenda is what's best for the American people. If illegals are committing crimes, we should know, and they should be deported. I honestly don't see what's so controversial about that, why do you want to keep foreigner criminals in the country?



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 12:58 AM
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a reply to: AutonomousMeatPuppet

You start dividing people and demonizing them like that and it's not about being treated equally but being treated with basic humanity.

There are lots of law abiding, hard working, immigrants here illegally that will be thrown in the mix and brutalized by something like this.

Deporting them or making them come here legally is one thing. But this is implying that they should be seen as dangerous automatically. It's not hard to understand this. It's the same reason why focusing on crimes by demographic is usually avoided. Because it's the Crime that is the problem, not the demographic. That just causes division and bias.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 01:02 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

It is obvious that it is obvious, It's the point. no covert meaning.

The fact you want to hide the data means I want to see it even more.

The data helps law enforcement plan. It's easier to target a high crime small population and help them reduce crime than a majority small crime population.

Black crime is very important and we should have an adult discussion on it. It will be a lot easier to lower crime for blacks than whites because their rate is so high.

Without these numbers whites may not even be aware of how bad crime is. White and Blacks live in separate crime rate worlds.

This is especially important for immigration. We should not import high crime populations, that is simply idiotic. Think about it for the children.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 01:03 AM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

Anyone committing crime needs to be dealt with. Not once have I suggested otherwise. All crime needs to be handled. But for one that is for Law Enforcement.

I'm not even saying to keep criminals in the country. I'm saying that what this "List" is going to do is focus people into thinking they are all dangerous criminals who are all the same.

Illegally being here, working for a living to feed your family, trying to live the American dream, taking care of your family, and being part of the system as much as you can isn't the same as being here illegally selling dope, being violent, murdering, etc. They aren't even close. But already just the fact that they are here illegally is all that anyone cares about. They lump them together and they aren't the same at all. Do you see the difference???



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 01:06 AM
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a reply to: jellyrev

Dude, can you read what I write without adding in your own BS???

I never said to hide the data. In fact I said just the opposite this whole time.

You can't even read what I'm saying without overlaying it with your own personal bias and changing what I say.

And you don't think making a list of people will cause problems??? You can't even read what I'm saying without getting it filtered into the opposite of what I'm saying.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 01:06 AM
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edit on 26-1-2017 by mOjOm because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 01:08 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Yes, I do see the difference, and President Trump does as well. That's why, for the vast majority of his campaign, he was talking about deporting illegal criminals, gang members, cartel members etc. And for the rest, then we will see what to do with them. If you are an illegal, and you aren't committing crimes, then you won't have to worry about this list, and most likely you will be allowed to stay in the U.S. Just don't commit crimes, it really isn't that difficult.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 01:10 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

I hadn't refreshed my posts in hours. had not seen yours. My bad on getting lazy



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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a reply to: jellyrev

No problem. Didn't mean to jump down your throat or anything either.




posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 01:13 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

It's a great example of a corporate CEO at work publishing weekly safety stats and remaining transparent to the shareholders.

The government needs to be run like an ISO compliant company - fully transparent and fully accountable to the shareholders.

Makes sense doesn't it - after all, it's your safety, security, money and level of lifestyle that's at play here.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 01:16 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

My State reports crime by age, sex, and race. I'm not sure about everywhere else.

I don't think you'll have to worry about angry mobs with torches and pitchforks or anything like that.



posted on Jan, 26 2017 @ 01:17 AM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

If you don't think he knows exactly what this is going to do you're being naive. Whatever his intentions are or what his plan is on how to deal with them isn't going to stop what happens once you focus the nation on Illegal Criminals in a weekly "List".

I mean it doesn't get much more dangerous than than.

That should be left for law enforcement to handle it. Or ICE. You don't focus everyone on something like that. You can report it like anything else. Like all other crime you report in the news. But you start focusing people on it you'll have citizens dealing with themselves causing chaos. Which is the point, don't kid yourself.

We are being divided. I don't mean we are divided like some natural thing. I mean WE ARE BEING DIVIDED in many ways in case you haven't noticed. Don't play in to their game. This nation is being played big time and people need to pay attention. It's not the first time this stuff has happened in history after all.




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