Trump Says He Will 'Send in the Feds' if Chicago Doesn't End 'Carnage'

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ketsuko

The city couldn't withstand the loss of TWO revenue streams from the FEDS simultaneously. Looks like we're going to have visitors from D.C. arriving in Black Vans soon!

I have no idea how this will proceed, but there are ways this can happen without calling in the troops.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ketsuko

The city couldn't withstand the loss of TWO revenue streams from the FEDS simultaneously. Looks like we're going to have visitors from D.C. arriving in Black Vans soon!

I have no idea how this will proceed, but there are ways this can happen without calling in the troops.

You're 100% correct. No need for TROOPS. It's not like fighting thousands of ISIS thugs. There's less than 10 gangs causing 90% of the problems. The police know who the leaders are, but are not taking action.

When the Black Vans arrive from D.C., these gang leaders will be apprehended and told what to do, or face the same consequences as terrorists.

a reply to: Snarl

Not to sound too dumb-but what do you consider their sources of funds-the kids who buy the drugs or who?

originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: Snarl
Not to sound too dumb-but what do you consider their sources of funds-the kids who buy the drugs or who?

The State. The State is their primary source of funds. Turn off the subsidized electricity, turn off the subsidized gas, and turn off the subsidized water. Turn off the EBT cards, turn off the SNAP cards, turn off WIC.

The drug dealers put their money into banks. They don't much spread it around in the community.

Overly simplified, but it wouldn't matter if I spelled it all the way out either. The gist is there.

Im not the brightest in the bunch but if we can walk guns to Mexico, I'm sure Mr. Trump can declare martial law, stop the influx of illegal weapons and if the thugs want to shoot back, I don't think they'll know what to do when drones start knocking out their homies.

Also, start with ChIraq so you can learn from experience.

I've told my friends and family start with protecting the US interest, then worry about the rest of the world. I don't see them jumping to offer us humanitarian aid ( oh wait, we'd have to admit publicly we're screwed ).

Breaking News .....

MASS SHOOTING: 6 Shot In Chicago Including Child; 10 Shot Since Late Wed Afternoon

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: xstealth
a reply to: theantediluvian

Refer to my post above. He simply has to copy President Reagan's task force he used in Miami and gear it for gangs instead of cartels.

This is the most effective solution possible.

Reagan defeated the Cartels? Seriously?

Yes he absolutely cut down on the violence in Miami, that can't be disputed.

Chicago NEEDS Martial Law! Think of all the respectable, legal and honest people stuck in that sewer that Emanuel allows to fester. If he isn't profiting from it I would be shocked. Regardless...he cares more about illegals and treating gang killers and drug dealers "nicely" than about the real Americans trying to survive the carnage.

Not only should Trump go in and "clean house", he should arrest the current government under suspicion of conspiracy and try them all in federal court. Account for every dollar spent housing illegals while crime and murder runs unbound. The citizens should then be able to sue the city government and the politicians directly and personally for what they have allowed.

No a penny should go to Chicago until the criminals...on the street and in office are round up, arrested and tried.

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: Snarl
Not to sound too dumb-but what do you consider their sources of funds-the kids who buy the drugs or who?

The State. The State is their primary source of funds. Turn off the subsidized electricity, turn off the subsidized gas, and turn off the subsidized water. Turn off the EBT cards, turn off the SNAP cards, turn off WIC.

The drug dealers put their money into banks. They don't much spread it around in the community.

Overly simplified, but it wouldn't matter if I spelled it all the way out either. The gist is there.

I agree with most of this except turning off WIC. WIC solely benefits women and children and mostly babies by providing formula which is not affordable even for most lower middle class families I know. While there is rampant WIC fraud (reselling the free formula someone gets for slightly reduced average prices online) and that is hard to stop, if you cut this off a lot of babies starve. There are enough stories out there of people purposefully neglecting their children, no reason to add anymore to that list

a reply to: jappee

It's kind of funny though .. We've heard for eight years that Obama is going to declare martial law, they we live in a police state and here you all are cheering this on. Is it because there is an R next to his name instead of a D?

originally posted by: Macenroe82
a reply to: Snarl
Perhaps he has some sort of Rodrigo Duterte, inspired plan in mind.
Gonna be the Wild West...err East. Style stuff going down!

Or pull out and nuke the entire site from orbit... it's the only way to be sure.

You underestimate the power and devastation of a modern nuclear weapon. Don't let even one full detonation occur anywhere, really.

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: Snarl
Not to sound too dumb-but what do you consider their sources of funds-the kids who buy the drugs or who?

The State. The State is their primary source of funds. Turn off the subsidized electricity, turn off the subsidized gas, and turn off the subsidized water. Turn off the EBT cards, turn off the SNAP cards, turn off WIC.

The drug dealers put their money into banks. They don't much spread it around in the community.

Overly simplified, but it wouldn't matter if I spelled it all the way out either. The gist is there.

Is that a precedent you want to set? If you start freezing peoples assets here, it's going to be used again, and again, and again in order for the state to bring about compliance. Isn't that the argument people always use these days when they try to keep money out of banks? That they don't want the state to have this type of control over them? Your argument is legitimizing that.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
Chicago NEEDS Martial Law! Think of all the respectable, legal and honest people stuck in that sewer that Emanuel allows to fester. If he isn't profiting from it I would be shocked. Regardless...he cares more about illegals and treating gang killers and drug dealers "nicely" than about the real Americans trying to survive the carnage.

Not only should Trump go in and "clean house", he should arrest the current government under suspicion of conspiracy and try them all in federal court. Account for every dollar spent housing illegals while crime and murder runs unbound. The citizens should then be able to sue the city government and the politicians directly and personally for what they have allowed.

No a penny should go to Chicago until the criminals...on the street and in office are round up, arrested and tried.

Chicago is #22 in the country for violent crime. If Chicago needs martial law, then you're also saying 21 other cities in the US also need martial law. Before Trump was on the scene I seem to remember you arguing against this as federal overreach.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
Chicago NEEDS Martial Law! Think of all the respectable, legal and honest people stuck in that sewer that Emanuel allows to fester. If he isn't profiting from it I would be shocked. Regardless...he cares more about illegals and treating gang killers and drug dealers "nicely" than about the real Americans trying to survive the carnage.

Not only should Trump go in and "clean house", he should arrest the current government under suspicion of conspiracy and try them all in federal court. Account for every dollar spent housing illegals while crime and murder runs unbound. The citizens should then be able to sue the city government and the politicians directly and personally for what they have allowed.

No a penny should go to Chicago until the criminals...on the street and in office are round up, arrested and tried.

Chicago is #22 in the country for violent crime. If Chicago needs martial law, then you're also saying 21 other cities in the US also need martial law. Before Trump was on the scene I seem to remember you arguing against this as federal overreach.

It's typical Trump childish behavior of retaliation because the mayor of Chicago stood up to him.

More people need to stand up to Trump.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
Chicago NEEDS Martial Law! Think of all the respectable, legal and honest people stuck in that sewer that Emanuel allows to fester. If he isn't profiting from it I would be shocked. Regardless...he cares more about illegals and treating gang killers and drug dealers "nicely" than about the real Americans trying to survive the carnage.

Not only should Trump go in and "clean house", he should arrest the current government under suspicion of conspiracy and try them all in federal court. Account for every dollar spent housing illegals while crime and murder runs unbound. The citizens should then be able to sue the city government and the politicians directly and personally for what they have allowed.

No a penny should go to Chicago until the criminals...on the street and in office are round up, arrested and tried.

Chicago is #22 in the country for violent crime. If Chicago needs martial law, then you're also saying 21 other cities in the US also need martial law. Before Trump was on the scene I seem to remember you arguing against this as federal overreach.

I'm sure you do and I'm sure I did...and will continue to. Every state should be permitted to operate as they see fit. But don't tell me that the law-abiding people in Chicago want this. It is the corrupt government there forcing the people to endure this situation. If nothing else...no Federal money should go to those who don't used them as stated or use them against the best interests of the people.

Just because I hate government overreach, does NOT mean I support a corrupt state government to screw the citizens.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: Snarl
Not to sound too dumb-but what do you consider their sources of funds-the kids who buy the drugs or who?

The State. The State is their primary source of funds. Turn off the subsidized electricity, turn off the subsidized gas, and turn off the subsidized water. Turn off the EBT cards, turn off the SNAP cards, turn off WIC.

The drug dealers put their money into banks. They don't much spread it around in the community.

Overly simplified, but it wouldn't matter if I spelled it all the way out either. The gist is there.

Is that a precedent you want to set? If you start freezing peoples assets here, it's going to be used again, and again, and again in order for the state to bring about compliance. Isn't that the argument people always use these days when they try to keep money out of banks? That they don't want the state to have this type of control over them? Your argument is legitimizing that.

Those aren't people's assets. They're government handouts. Handouts that should be ended if compliance with the law is not complete. Sound harsh? Sound too harsh? Lesson: Don't become dependent on the government for your subsistence. Get out and better yourself.

Is that the precedent I want to set? No. And you would like my type of precedent even less. I want a pyramid ... in fact, the Mother of All Pyramids ... and somebody's got to build it.

a reply to: ValentineWiggin

I agree with you, but I added it to my list ... and at the end of it ... to make a point. You amplified it well.

I got caught in line behind a couple at the grocery store the other day ... maxing out their cards and putting everything they could in the basket ... only for them to have the cashier inform them that all of their cards were denied. They must have had hundreds of dollars worth of groceries all bagged up waiting to be rolled out to the parking lot ... and they weren't embarrassed in the least. Laughed even at the mess they had caused.

People like that are the exact cause for the need to eliminate welfare programs for a period of time. I don't think one dime of my hard-earned paycheck should be stripped from me in taxes while that sort of crap goes on day-in and day-out as an extortion payment. I say end it ... let 'em riot ... and let the citizens come out and handle it without color of law.

Too bad 0bama didn't hand them the shovel he had promised. All of this is part of the carnage Trump was referring to. That reminds me ... I bet a buddy of mine at work that if Trump won the election, he'd Petition the White House to eliminate the 0bamaphone Program

originally posted by: SnarlLesson: Don't become dependent on the government for your subsistence. Get out and better yourself.

It takes handouts to better yourself, how else do you cover school and living expenses while attending school?

originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: Snarl

Brings a tear to my eye.

Finally, backbone in the white house. The democrats have ruined Chicago. They've had years to address the issues and all we're seeing is an ever rising murder rate. About time the Feds go in and handle business.

Amazingly, it also shows how little Obama cares about his home town. Doesn't care if blacks are shooting each other every damn day. He only cares if he can blame whitey for it.

Well like the days of Big Al Capone, many in city government were probably profiting from the gang drug trade.

a reply to: Snarl

Some cashier systems are really touchy with EBT, for example in my town you cannot partially pay for groceries with it, it's an all or nothing system. If I buy $20 of food and I have $15 on my card it will deny it. Other systems, in other towns will charge the $15 and then tell me to pay the remaining $5.

I don't know how common each is, but I do know my town is the land of EBT/poverty. Our median income is $13k and our grocery store has a payday loan shop built into it so people can get grocery money.

Obamaphones won't be ended. They didn't start with Obama, they didn't even start with Bush. They're an offshoot of the lifeline program which upgraded in the mid 2000's (years before Obama took office) to start using old cell phones rather than landline phones. The phone companies like this program because it lets them sell what would otherwise be unused merchandise, and the recipients like this program because SMS has become a popular way of communicating with employers, which a landline phone can't do.

The program actually saves money, did you know that landline phones are more expensive than cell phones these days? That's if you can even find a landline phone for sale.

If anything the program is too stingy, I think it's something like 200 minutes/month (that's why some people have multiple phones) which is a significant downgrade from the old landline program of unlimited local calling.