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Originally posted by risitar
Sorry, but with the likes of an incomplete Disneyland Paris (or Euro Disneyland), no Universal Studios over in Germany, the stalled French nuclear initiative by stopping at the borders of France, and the still broken British Empire all pretty much means that Europe will forever remain only as a continent. It is bizzare of how it is with the cold war projects because once the Euro Fighter is done and over with the once technological stalwart will quickly be replaced by the brand new Muslim world that will be, a rapidly catching-up-India, and the already hugely relevant nation of China. To sit on what they have accomplished is simply put foolish as they need to keep the focus on efficiency all the way as opposed to celebrating every accomplishment.
Originally posted by benedict arnold
The french are busy eating crepes and snails. India could whip the French.
Originally posted by Jimmy1880
People from the US tend to see miltary technology as a means of power but in Europe we have all witnessed what war can do so we tend to do things diplomatically and in that sense the EU is unmatched, it's through strong diplomatic relations that a country really shows it's standing in the world.
THE CIA has predicted that the European Union will break-up within 15 years unless it radically reforms its ailing welfare systems.
The report by the intelligence agency, which forecasts how the world will look in 2020, warns that Europe could be dragged into economic decline by its ageing population. It also predicts the end of Nato and post-1945 military alliances.
In a devastating indictment of EU economic prospects, the report warns: "The current EU welfare state is unsustainable and the lack of any economic revitalisation could lead to the splintering or, at worst, disintegration of the EU, undermining its ambitions to play a heavyweight international role."
It adds that the EU’s economic growth rate is dragged down by Germany and its restrictive labour laws. Reforms there - and in France and Italy to lesser extents - remain key to whether the EU as a whole can break out of its "slow-growth pattern".
Reflecting growing fears in the US that the pain of any proper reform would be too much to bear, the report adds that the experts it consulted "are dubious that the present political leadership is prepared to make even this partial break, believing a looming budgetary crisis in the next five years would be the more likely trigger for reform".
The EU is also set for a looming demographic crisis because of a drop in birth rates and increased longevity, with devastating economic consequences.
The report says: "Either European countries adapt their workforces, reform their social welfare, education and tax systems, and accommodate growing immigrant populations [chiefly from Muslim countries] or they face a period of protracted economic stasis."
As a result of the increased immigration needed, the report predicts that Europe’s Muslim population is set to increase from around 13% today to between 22% and 37% of the population by 2025, potentially triggering tensions.
The report predicts that America’s relationships with Europe will be "dramatically altered" over the next 15 years, in a move away from post-Second World War institutions. Nato could disappear and be replaced by increased EU action.
"The EU, rather than Nato, will increasingly become the primary institution for Europe, and the role Europeans shape for themselves on the world stage is most likely to be projected through it," the report adds. "Whether the EU will develop an army is an open question."
Defence spending by individual European countries, including the UK, France, and Germany, is likely to fall further behind China and other countries over the next 15 years. Collectively these countries will outspend all others except the US and possibly China.
The expected next technological revolution will involve the convergence of nano, bio, information and materials technology and will further bolster China and India’s prospects, the study predicts. Both countries are investing in basic research in these fields and are well placed to be leaders. But whereas the US will retain its overall lead, the report warns "Europe risks slipping behind Asia in some of these technologies".
For Europe, an increasing preference for natural gas may reinforce regional relationships, such as those with Russia or North Africa, given the inter-dependence of pipeline delivery, the report argues. But this means the EU will have to deal with Russia, which the report also warns "faces a severe demographic crisis resulting from low birth rates, poor medical care and a potentially explosive Aids situation".
Russia also borders an "unstable region" in the Caucasus and Central Asia, "the effects of which - Muslim extremism, terrorism and endemic conflict - are likely to continue spilling over into Russia".
The report also largely en dorses forecasts that by 2020 China’s gross domestic product will exceed that of individual western economic powers except for the US. India’s GDP will have overtaken or be overtaking European economies.
Because of the sheer size of China’s and India’s populations their standard of living need not approach European and western levels to become important economic powers.
The economies of other developing countries, such as Brazil, could surpass all but the largest European countries by 2020.
Originally posted by semperfooThere was a report filed not to long ago by the CIA back in 05-06 which forecasts how the world will look in 2020. It stated that the EU will collapse in 15 years. It also predicts the end of Nato and post-1945 military alliances.
I would also like to point out that the US creates more jobs in 1 month then Germany or France create in ONE ENTIRE YEAR!
If Germany, France and Italy were american states, they would be among the poorest in the Union.
Originally posted by themaster1
Allright if the CIA wrote it, that might be the truthful truth.
I don't say it's easy to build EU but....c'mon
End of Nato,...pfff(am i awake?) if it end it will be for a new thing more powerful otherwise it will not end, this is pure fantasy right here.
Yeeeah when you let the dirty work,not well paid, for the hispanic community,the black community etc.
I guess it's easy to create jobs.Remember the riots from the hispanic community recently?
May i remind you that after the two world wars(yeah,TWO) we had a lot to rebuild all accross europe? from the single tiny church destroyed to the
hotels to the roads...EVERYTHING.That's why we've adopted this system (here in france) and there is no discussion possible on this suject, that was the right thing to do.
we now have some delay regarding a few things but the amerikkka is not far ahead from us if you ask me.Look at the poors in your country,
look at your outdated buses, look at your railroads coming from another era & the list goes on & on.
OK a non sense statement for the simple fact that, IF we were gentle enough to join up into your fantastic amerikkka, the laws would be the same for your state & ours(i presume),
so how could we possibly not be the richest?
We know many languages (unlike you)
Our educational system is harder than yours (a 16 in france is most definitely a 14 in the US)
We could get the best jobs,well paid EASILY.
Now give me a break
Originally posted by themaster1
FOURTH: India? Well I've got nathen to say about India lol they're probably 1 billion or i don't know how many heads, if the the weather changes for some reason we first blast 'em with a few bombs & then we send the légions étrangères.Heard of them?