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Discovery of lost Dark Age Kingdom in Scotland:

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posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 11:11 PM
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Archaeological research led by GUARD Archaeology has just been published which reveals the location of a hitherto lost early medieval kingdom that was once pre-eminent in Scotland and Northern England.

The kingdom of Rheged is probably the most elusive of all the sixth century kingdoms of Dark Age Britain. Despite contributing a rich source of some of the earliest medieval poetry to be composed in Britain - the poetry of Taliesin who extolled the prowess of its king, Urien of Rheged - and fragments of early medieval historical records of Urien’s dominance in southern Scotland and northern England, the actual location of Rheged has long been shrouded in mystery.

While many historians have assumed it was centred around Carlisle and Cumbria, no evidence has ever been found to back this up. However, new archaeological evidence from the excavation of Trusty's Hill Fort at Gatehouse of Fleet in Dumfries and Galloway now challenges this assumption.

‘What drew us to Trusty’s Hill were Pictish symbols carved on to bedrock here, which are unique in this region and far to the south of where Pictish carvings are normally found,’ said Ronan Toolis of GUARD Archaeology, who led the excavation which involved the participation of over 60 volunteers. ‘The Galloway Picts Project was launched in 2012 to recover evidence for the archaeological context of these carvings but far from validating the existence of ‘Galloway Picts’, the archaeological context revealed by our excavation instead suggests the carvings relate to a royal stronghold and place of inauguration for the local Britons of Galloway around AD 600. Examined in the context of contemporary sites across Scotland and northern England, the archaeological evidence suggests that Galloway may have been the heart of the lost Dark Age kingdom of Rheged, a kingdom that was in the late sixth century pre-eminent amongst the kingdoms of the north.’
Read more at archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com...


Mock-up of the kingdom's royal residence.





I am not sure what's going on in with this piece of art, but it seems to me like someone carved an I M H into it, you may need to go to the link and kilk for better resolution to see what I am talking about.
Of all the Northwest early Europeans, the Picts are the least known to me, I first came across their name, not from any history text, but from Conan the Barbarian comics, further reading other than Comics gave a very horrible picture of them, this off-course came form folks who were their enemies or competitors so buyer beware.
Did they survive under a different name or are there traces of their culture still in existence.. dances, words etc.




posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 11:21 PM
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wow this is interesting, I love this sort of thing.

It looks to me like that stone has been vandalised by people carving their initials?



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 11:22 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

Latin letters 600AD Scotland? Who was digging that up? Charles Dawson?



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 11:31 PM
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Great post. Bookmarked.



posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 12:09 AM
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Thanks, nice find. The Picts;

The Picts are 'alive and well' and living in Scotland


Ten per cent of the more than 1,000 Scottish men tested carry the R1b-S530 marker, while less than one per cent of Englishmen have it.

Source



posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 12:14 AM
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Roman Numerals which is what it appears to be:

I = 1
M = 1,000
H = 200

so . . . 1199? whatever that means



posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 12:15 AM
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Much thanks for the link, but did any of their culture/words survived..



posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 01:24 AM
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originally posted by: Spider879
Much thanks for the link, but did any of their culture/words survived..

As with a lot of the primitive cultures aspects that were lost due to the conversion to Christianity, what's left may have been borrowed by them(such as with the Celts knotwork and Pagans overall).
Picts influencing tattooing with use of woad may be the cultural aspect but have found at least one source to dismiss it as tattooing but rather body painting.
Would assume there may be a revival in modern Scottish culture and some may have crossed over into during the years, though as mentioned it's still a bit of a mystery as to who they were.
Possible the the culture, or what was left of it, just carried over from this point:


They repelled the conquests of both Romans and Angles, creating a true north-south divide on the British Isles, only to disappear from history by the end of the first millennium - swallowed whole by the history of another group, the Gaels. Together they created the Kingdom of Alba.

Source


References:
www.englishmonarchs.co.uk...
www.dibonsmith.com...



posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 01:53 AM
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What an outstanding discovery. Amazing on so many levels

Apparently according to the article I found


"Mel Gibson's blue face paint in Braveheart is a nod to the Pictish tradition of body-paint - but the real Picts fought stark naked, and there are records of them doing so up until the 5th Century."

That is badass.

This site has so many hidden gems to offer.





posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 02:05 AM
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originally posted by: weirdguy
wow this is interesting, I love this sort of thing.

It looks to me like that stone has been vandalised by people carving their initials?


Except the pictish carvings in the bedrock weren't part of this excavation and have been on display for a number of years, they could have been vandalised any time in recent history. I've seen graffiti, elsewhere in Scotland (Arbroath & Lunan Bay cliffs) that has similar roman numerals, it seems to have been popular at some point in recent history...



posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 02:10 AM
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"1199" would be MCIC, I think (a thousand and a hundred and one short of the next hundred)
IM would be 999. I don't think IMH would have a numerical value, so it probably has a different solution.


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posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 03:00 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: JDeLattre89
"1199" would be MCIC, I think (a thousand and a hundred and one short of the next hundred)
IM would be 999. I don't think IMH would have a numerical value, so it probably has a different solution.



For example Ian Martin Hadley? Irwin Martin Hopkins? I'm sure there are thousands of combinations of names that would bear those initials...



posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 04:02 AM
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As far as the IMH that was added later and isn't even a pict symbol. You do see the double disk z rod and the sea horse which are classic symbols. Unfortunately all we can do is speculate about there meaning. For example the double disk z rod can mean thunder and lightening or its been mentioned it is two separate worlds such as heaven and hell. As for the sea horse there Is arguments that say its not but may be a dolphin since some depictions appear to have a tail. Still others claim its a dinosaur the picts drew many unusual creatures that don't quite fit with known species.



posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 08:20 AM
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Not so much a proclamation, as publicity for a book
www.amazon.co.uk...




posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 08:40 AM
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I find the 'vitrified' aspect of this site interesting too. I am not sure if there has been a real explanation offered by anyone as to why there are vitrified hill forts. I do know of an outlandish one that suggests a comet as the source. There has been evidence cited by some authors which makes that idea interesting, if nothing else.

S+F
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posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: Spider879

I find the 'vitrified' aspect of this site interesting too. I am not sure if there has been a real explanation offered by anyone as to why there are vitrified hill fortsS=F





Last five years there was a study which proved that the walls were intentionally set on fire, not to melt the large granite rocks, but to melt the small sandstone rocks and sand added to the mortar, which is the source of the "glass" and which strengthened the walls, while at the same time weakening the remaining rocks, there are 70 vitrified forts in Scotland and about 200 in Europe. With that many spread over such a wide area, the natural phenomena (comets, lightning etc) explanation has been completely debunked. Alternatively the walls were set alight to destroy the settlement, either by invaders, or as a ritual act of destruction by the inhabitants, Archaeologists can't seem to make up their minds which one is correct because the archaeology doesn't help. But they were definitely set alight by human agency

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posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: Marduk

Thanks

I just learned something.



posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: Marduk

So there are two completely opposite views?


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posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: Marduk

Its fair to add that a few people tried to replicate the technique/theorie and failed s well.



posted on Jan, 24 2017 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: Spider879
Good luck with this theory as Taliesin and Urien of Rheged are entrenched in the ancient Welsh mythology and they wont like you trying to usurp their mythology into Scottish mythology.
And what pray tell how do they come to their conclusions that this is Rheged? Oh, they think!!! They think that this might be the place. So no actual evidence then.



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