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posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:28 PM
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I am NOT for single payer system.

Canada // UK need I say more?

What I do however want is a efficient system, and too be quite honest a damn good one for Vets. They are special and have earned it...period.

There will always be profit in the medical world, otherwise it stagnates.

Now lawyers however shoot in general be shot on site.....Well maybe that is too drastic. Maybe a 3 months opens season with pistols and 3 months with a bow.




posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah



We have plenty of hospitals, doctors, and clinics to provide services.

Many of which most people cannot afford.


Within 10 minutes of my house, there are several major hospitals, about seven urgent cares, and... I would guess at least 50 or more doctor offices, including medical centers.

Too bad it's not like that everywhere in America.


The locations of PP are generally in urban areas - and these almost always have plenty of other healthcare alternatives.

Again many people cannot afford those healthcare alternatives.


If the US wants to keep PP, then fine. But I don't want my tax dollars funding their eugenics and murder.

Women of all races goes to PP so whining eugenics is nonsense. It was in the very beginning but hasn't been for a very long time.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

Women of all races goes to PP so whining eugenics is nonsense. It was in the very beginning but hasn't been for a very long time.


The poor go and that was exactly Sanger's goal.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: edsinger

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

So you bought into that debunked BS as well, I really hope you find an honest source for news soon.


They had her on film talking about it...oh wait that was faked....right




And as a Veteran I find it repulsive you have run into these types of issues. We should be taking care of the Veterans.

Maybe Trump can fix that. It is shameful the way this country treats them. Good thing the Kenyan was a peaceful president.


Look at it this way, if you were a non-white, homosexual, disabled, non citizen woman you would get free healthcare.



I am a white male vet, and the VA takes care of me quite well. The VA here in KC is the bomb.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: edsinger

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

So you bought into that debunked BS as well, I really hope you find an honest source for news soon.


They had her on film talking about it...oh wait that was faked....right




And as a Veteran I find it repulsive you have run into these types of issues. We should be taking care of the Veterans.

Maybe Trump can fix that. It is shameful the way this country treats them. Good thing the Kenyan was a peaceful president.


Look at it this way, if you were a non-white, homosexual, disabled, non citizen woman you would get free healthcare.



Highly edited, anything this asshole did, I am not buying.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: BubbaJoe




Jim, I honestly think you do not understand.


Exactly why I made a thread!


Under the ACA you both still fall through the cracks so why on earth are you supporting it (provided you do). Saying that I don't give a crap is dishonest, because I infact do. I also struggle. I'll share my side.

We had a baby a year ago. He was born under her insurance and then covered under mine. Her deductible is 4000 and mine is 6000. Guess how much insurance actually helped? They actually covered about 2000 of it all together. I'm looking at a 3400 bill and she is looking at the full 4000.

All while our premiums doubled, (mine about 60%) and our deductible went WAAAAY up and none of the visits were covered.



The ACA was a good try, we are the only industrialized nation that does not have universal healthcare.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: edsinger

originally posted by: buster2010

Women of all races goes to PP so whining eugenics is nonsense. It was in the very beginning but hasn't been for a very long time.


The poor go and that was exactly Sanger's goal.


Your BS has been debunked so many times, why are you even trying?



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: edsinger

I've seen far too many screwed up homeless veterans in my life...
and when I say screwed up, I don't mean that they were screwed up because of the decisions they made in their lives. I mean men that would suddenly go out into la, la, land and start shouting orders, acting like bombs are being dropped on them or something similar. most of these were from nam... the first crime that was done was to send them into this needless war to begin with, to expose them to something that was just so horrible that their minds broke..
the second was to have them come home and then just forget about them, leave them out on the streets, to fend for themselves.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: edsinger

I've seen far too many screwed up homeless veterans in my life...
and when I say screwed up, I don't mean that they were screwed up because of the decisions they made in their lives. I mean men that would suddenly go out into la, la, land and start shouting orders, acting like bombs are being dropped on them or something similar. most of these were from nam... the first crime that was done was to send them into this needless war to begin with, to expose them to something that was just so horrible that their minds broke..
the second was to have them come home and then just forget about them, leave them out on the streets, to fend for themselves.



But defunding planned parenthood is more important to republicans than supporting vets? Republicans support nothing that middle America believes in, why the hell do you keep voting for them?

ETA: Because they are white?
edit on 1/23/2017 by BubbaJoe because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: edsinger

originally posted by: buster2010

Women of all races goes to PP so whining eugenics is nonsense. It was in the very beginning but hasn't been for a very long time.


The poor go and that was exactly Sanger's goal.


Because in America, they cannot afford to go anywhere else. Do you have any more wisdom to lay on us, oh great one?
F wad



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

I wrote off both the republicans and the dems quite awhile back. it's either third party or it's cartoon character.

heck every time they have a budget problem, they wait till the last minute to solve it and then it's oh, but we won't be able to pay the military!!! wtf, you had the money to send them to these god awful places, you best find the money to pay them... with all the "I support the armed service men and women" garbage the spew, that one thing right there tells the real story, they don't give a darn about them!! come hell or high water, those troops should be paid! heck they came up with enough money to bail out the danged banks fast enough. I am so glad my kid is out of the military now, I used to have this weird fear that they would send him off somewhere and then just decide they don't have the money to bring him home. leave him stranded somewhere because some jerks needed to build a bridge to nowhere along with other jerks with just as stupid ideas just were more important.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: edsinger

at the time that sanger was around, the not so poor who were able were traveling to europe where the newest and best birth control methods of the day were easily obtained and more importantly LEGAL!
I guess the rich were practicing eugenics on themselves??



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:18 PM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoeBut defunding planned parenthood is more important to republicans than supporting vets? Republicans support nothing that middle America believes in, why the hell do you keep voting for them?

ETA: Because they are white?


Well that is quite funny actually, you see middle America just elected Trump. Black people voted for him, women voted for him, and Hispanics voted for him. Want to know why? Because middle America is tired of paying for others free *^%%. They are tired of the political correctness, they are tired of the double standards....pisses you Tulipwalkers off that democrats voted for Trump doesn't it?


originally posted by: BubbaJoeBecause in America, they cannot afford to go anywhere else. Do you have any more wisdom to lay on us, oh great one? F wad


First you lie. When in California they all go to the ER. For profit Hospitals can NOT turn you away. So what did Kenyan care get you? Did they lie? Why should I have to pay 300% more for my medical care when I already only see about 0.55 cents of what I earn? Where does it stop? Free sh*(& for everybody.

Reagan had a good saying, Socialism works until you run out of other peoples money.......

As a Christian, I think we should take care of the poor. I think the Church's would do a much better job than breeding generations of welfare recipients. LBJ ruined the Blacks in this nation. I have a black friend that was giving me crap about how he grew up in Detroit and how bad it was, I said well I was trailer trash from the deep south, whats the difference?

He is very successful now and why? He worked for it and earned it. Most kids in the hood don't have a father or some don't even really know who there father is, both black and white. Why is this you think?

So you can believe in abortion if you like, I will thank you for your service and you have earned your right to your opinions as have I. There was no reason to call me a F Wad (MODs I do not mind so I take no offense to it so let it go).

So I take it, you want the Government to not take 0.55 of every dollar I make, would you like to leave me at least 0.25 so I can eat? I drive a 1998 car worth $500 because I see no reason to drive something else but when folks like to spend my money to reward laziness I take offense to it. I put that 50/60 hours in with no overtime because I provide for my family. So that makes me a F wad...so be it.

PS and I never said de-funding PP is more important than the Vets, quite the opposite actually and I can prove it...

see # 3

Linky





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posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:33 PM
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originally posted by: edsinger

originally posted by: BubbaJoeBut defunding planned parenthood is more important to republicans than supporting vets? Republicans support nothing that middle America believes in, why the hell do you keep voting for them?

ETA: Because they are white?


Well that is quite funny actually, you see middle America just elected Trump. Black people voted for him, women voted for him, and Hispanics voted for him. Want to know why? Because middle America is tired of paying for others free *^%%. They are tired of the political correctness, they are tired of the double standards....pisses you Tulipwalkers off that democrats voted for Trump doesn't it?


originally posted by: BubbaJoeBecause in America, they cannot afford to go anywhere else. Do you have any more wisdom to lay on us, oh great one? F wad


First you lie. When in California they all go to the ER. For profit Hospitals can NOT turn you away. So what did Kenyan care get you? Did they lie? Why should I have to pay 300% more for my medical care when I already only see about 0.55 cents of what I earn? Where does it stop? Free sh*(& for everybody.

Reagan had a good saying, Socialism works until you run out of other peoples money.......

As a Christian, I think we should take care of the poor. I think the Church's would do a much better job than breeding generations of welfare recipients. LBJ ruined the Blacks in this nation. I have a black friend that was giving me crap about how he grew up in Detroit and how bad it was, I said well I was trailer trash from the deep south, whats the difference?

He is very successful now and why? He worked for it and earned it. Most kids in the hood don't have a father or some don't even really know who there father is, both black and white. Why is this you think?

So you can believe in abortion if you like, I will thank you for your service and you have earned your right to your opinions as have I. There was no reason to call me a F Wad (MODs I do not mind so I take no offense to it so let it go).

So I take it, you want the Government to not take 0.55 of every dollar I make, would you like to leave me at least 0.25 so I can eat? I drive a 1998 car worth $500 because I see no reason to drive something else but when folks like to spend my money to reward laziness I take offense to it. I put that 50/60 hours in with no overtime because I provide for my family. So that makes me a F wad...so be it.








As a Christian I think you have failed, the rest of wall of BS I failed to read. Go and enjoy your sky zombie, I will choose to live in the real world. What I really want to say is F off.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoeAs a Christian I think you have failed, the rest of wall of BS I failed to read. Go and enjoy your sky zombie, I will choose to live in the real world. What I really want to say is F off.


Hit a cord did I?

I have not failed as a Christian, not even close.

I live in the real world, I raise my children, I work and I pay taxes.

I am entitled to my opinion just as you.....

Obviously you do not read....



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe


Your BS has been debunked so many times, why are you even trying?


Truth maybe? How one can say she did not is delusional. READ what she wrote.....can not get more plain then that.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: edsinger

originally posted by: BubbaJoeAs a Christian I think you have failed, the rest of wall of BS I failed to read. Go and enjoy your sky zombie, I will choose to live in the real world. What I really want to say is F off.


Hit a cord did I?

I have not failed as a Christian, not even close.

I live in the real world, I raise my children, I work and I pay taxes.

I am entitled to my opinion just as you.....

Obviously you do not read....


No but apparently I did, I have raised my children, worked and paid taxes. I have also served my country, if you try to force your opinion down my throat, it don't count. We are both entitled to our opinions, but I personally think that yours blows goats.
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posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:52 PM
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originally posted by: edsinger

originally posted by: BubbaJoe


Your BS has been debunked so many times, why are you even trying?


Truth maybe? How one can say she did not is delusional. READ what she wrote.....can not get more plain then that.


You actually lost me at Kenyan Care, after that gloves are off.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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For profit Hospitals can NOT turn you away.


If I am reading your post right, I have to say....

You Lie!!!
hospitals cannot turn you away from EMERGENCY CARE....
and even then you will get a rather large bill for it...

so, no, thinking that the hospital er is a good replacement planned parenthood, or any other non-emergency treatment is lame!!

and here is what emergency care is and isn't...
a few years ago I broke my ankle... went to the emergency room for treatment. the x-rays were done... the doctor examined it and the xray, told me it was broke, slapped a splint on it, and referred me to a surgeon, who wasn't so obligated by the way, and oh ya, I finally asked for something for the pain before I left because I accepted that they were never going to offer it to me. that's it.. I was uninsured at the time and it took a the surgeon I was referred to getting a phone call from a state legislator to convince him to do the surgery without a $2,000 down payment.
if I am remembering right, the bills for that broken foot amounted to more than what I could have earned in two years. and I started freaking over the bills after I got the hospital bill.. I was supposed to go into physical therapy and I did go a couple of times, but I finally told them I just couldn't afford it and quit going. maybe if I had been able to keep going, it would have healed better and I wouldn't be disabled now.. but, well, I live in america!! greatest healthcare in the world!!! if you earn enough to afford it, or are a poor single mother with a bunch of kids and have the gov't backing you up... we were neither, I had been unemployed before I broke the foot because there was something wrong with it and the break was just the grand finale of the story. and it took me close to a year before I got to the point where I thought maybe I could get back into the workforce.
so tell me, you don't seem to want to fund planned parenthood, are you going to mind if you end up paying to deliver the babies that might result if the action causes more unwanted pregnancies?



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: edsinger

originally posted by: BubbaJoe


Your BS has been debunked so many times, why are you even trying?


Truth maybe? How one can say she did not is delusional. READ what she wrote.....can not get more plain then that.


I actually went back and read that wall of BS, I have been fortunate to have lived all over the US, came back 8 years ago, looked after my Grandfather for the last 6 months of his life, spent the last 8 years looking after my mother and step father, until we lost him last week. Now just me and the wife looking out for mom, should quiet down. I explain all of this because all of his kids are a bunch of evangelical asshats, they descended on the house, two days after he died wanting all of his stuff, not actually realizing it all belonged to my mother, they treated her like crap at the funeral, even to the point of saying, we have that side roped off for your family.

I am pretty much of the opinion that evangelicals suck.

ETA: Ny mother and their father had been together for 31 years.
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