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Pope Francis Says ‘Every Country Has the Right to Control its Borders’

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posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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Looks like Pope Francis is changing his mind about national borders.

He now proclaims that countries have the right to control borders.

He emphasizes "terrorism" as the main reason.

Maybe he "sees" the light all-of-a-sudden?


Pope Francis Says ‘Every Country Has the Right to Control its Borders’

Despite his dislike of walls, Pope Francis declared Friday that “every country has the right to control its borders,” especially where the risk of terrorism exists.

In an extended interview with the leftist Spanish newspaper El País, the Pope reaffirmed basic Catholic doctrine regarding immigration, namely, that sovereign nations have the fundamental right to maintain secure borders and to receive immigrants in an orderly and controlled fashion.

“Yes, every country has the right to control its borders, who comes and who goes,” Francis said Friday, “and those countries at risk —from terrorism or such things— have even more right to control them more.”




posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
He now proclaims that countries have the right to control borders.


It would be a little hypocritical of him to say otherwise considering the Vatican is surrounded by a giant wall and access is cut off at a strict time each day.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen
Does this mean Conservatives like him again?



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yes, I think people forget that the Vatican is actually a city-state (its own country) and it even has its own army (the Swiss Guard) whom all have to be former members of the army in Switzerland.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: xuenchen
He now proclaims that countries have the right to control borders.


It would be a little hypocritical of him to say otherwise considering the Vatican is surrounded by a giant wall and access is cut off at a strict time each day.


Exactly. I was utterly disgusted when the Vatican started espousing the whole virtues of allowing refugess into Europe thing. It showed absolutely no foresight, like the entire 'open doors and windows' policy Germany took. '

The UN should be hung drawn and quartered for the way that crisis was handled too. The ethnic minorities like Yazidis, Astrozorians and Christians were left to be slaughtered without help or hope because bureaucrats would not allow any preference for race or religion when saving people.

And that makes them as bad as the Nazis because the policy ultimately lead to them being ethnically cleansed.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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Does anyone still listen to the Pope?



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: ugmold

Not me...as a former born and raised Catholic, the opinion of some glorified preacher on secular matters is lost on me.

I just dont care what he says on anything.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

thats different
and isnt that opposite of what he said earlier?
new orders perhaps?



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

More likely some Vatican intel about a proposed ISIS attack has been presented to the Pope.

I know most people are not interested in Catholic prophecy, but Fatima predicted that the Pope would have to flee Rome at some point in the future.

Maybe Mr Popey is a little worried all of a sudden.....



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 04:10 PM
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Most of the Pope's pronouncements are propaganda opportunities.

After allegedly(?) slapping Trump in the face with those remarks about populist saviours like HItler, he partakes of an opportunity to praise or defend (Trump's) basic nationalistic policies like border control. Maybe he just realized what his situation was.

The Church generally talks obliquely about current events and relies on its vast HUMINT network to get the "right" message out.

The real question is who is really pulling the strings here?

ganjoa



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: xuenchen
He now proclaims that countries have the right to control borders.


It would be a little hypocritical of him to say otherwise considering the Vatican is surrounded by a giant wall and access is cut off at a strict time each day.


I mean just even more basic..
Do we not believe in houses with locked doors?

Should we all sleep not even in tents but just outside under the stars??

And speaking further on walls and barriers maybe we should lose the clothes while we are at it.. ?

Sorry but isn't it kind of goofy to have to say nations can have walls?



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 04:33 PM
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It amazes me when people look past the obvious things that are in plain sight.

A reservoir is just that. It holds a substance. Be it water, chemicals, money, or influence.

When the resources stop coming in and the reservoir goes dry, the spigots are shut off and the resources stop going out.

Plants aren't watered, cars aren't painted, and yes ... policies aren't attacked.

Give it time and a new reservoir will be found and the RCC will decide which way it will decide to come down with a new Papal Bull.

Do not be extremely surprised to hear whispers on the wind of "Dues Vult" by next winter.
edit on 22-1-2017 by 200Plus because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 04:39 PM
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Did the Golden Don make him an offer he couldn't refuse? *cue godfather music*



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Looks like Pope Francis is changing his mind about national borders.

He now proclaims that countries have the right to control borders.

He emphasizes "terrorism" as the main reason.

Maybe he "sees" the light all-of-a-sudden?


Pope Francis Says ‘Every Country Has the Right to Control its Borders’

Despite his dislike of walls, Pope Francis declared Friday that “every country has the right to control its borders,” especially where the risk of terrorism exists.

In an extended interview with the leftist Spanish newspaper El País, the Pope reaffirmed basic Catholic doctrine regarding immigration, namely, that sovereign nations have the fundamental right to maintain secure borders and to receive immigrants in an orderly and controlled fashion.

“Yes, every country has the right to control its borders, who comes and who goes,” Francis said Friday, “and those countries at risk —from terrorism or such things— have even more right to control them more.”




Why is "terrorism" and "sees" in quotations - do you use some kind of hidden code?

The pope talked about the need for dialogue, not in closing your country up to outsiders. He talked about making bridges not walls. He didn't say anything about borders not being controlled.

Let's give it six months and see how more desperate you get in your posts.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: JDeLattre89

yep, basically it`s a fortified armed compound, no worries about illegal Mexicans or any other illegals sneaking into there,and raping and murdering people.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: uncommitted

ok well in accordance with the popes wishes we`ll just build a little wall like the one he has, that should be cool with him.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: ugmold
a reply to: xuenchen
Does this mean Conservatives like him again?


No.

Between his stance on the climate, his comments about saviors and populists.

The good Pope.

Is flip flopping all over the place like a fish that got left out of water when the red sea parted.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 05:09 PM
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originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: xuenchen

Why is "terrorism" and "sees" in quotations - do you use some kind of hidden code?



Yes.

It's in hidden "code".




posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen


WOW hes a sharp one!



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: uncommitted

ok well in accordance with the popes wishes we`ll just build a little wall like the one he has, that should be cool with him.



Well if you time travel back to when that wall was built and is now of archaeological importance you probably could. You can't though so you can just act like a twelve year old instead if you want. Sheesh, grow up.




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