The NWO already won.

The NWO is already here and has won the battle for control.

The NWO is not a organization of the elite bent on world control. Rather, the NWO is a state of order in the world. A world where human structure over takes individuals. A world where statistic determine wars, live, death, and love. A world where society is the living being an humans are just parts of the body. In the first world countries people are segmented into statistic, market groups, demographics. In the third world people are just resources or comodities, things to feed the other societies or be cast aside.

Sudan... 3rd world, ignored, left to rot. Iraq... Oil, food for the order, important to the beast of modern man. I am not talking of America, but all societies, of the globe. Russia, France, UK, US, every first world country just moves as is needed to grow. Right or wrong the oder must grow.

Yet we have natural instinct to be "uncivilized" to feel, to act, to be driven by personal goals. Media, the calming factor of the order. People go to clubs, watch TV, listen to music to relax. Calm the nerves after a day of labor for the order. People self passify themselves when offer luxury. When given food, shelter, TV, cars, games, parks, people will self passify on these in return for laboring for the order.

ATS is part of the passification. People come here, talk, fret, worry, and calm themselves though expending energy on thought... just thought. Words.

When was the last time you fought the order? Actually went out there and disrupted the building of a future? Built your own future? You haven't, you are passified to, you live in the luxury.

The biggest hammer brought down by the order is the idea that "Knowledge is power". Is it? Is knowing what is becomming of this world stopping anything? Is debate changing things? Has your country stopped throwing around political/economic/military might to further the structure?

We are ants. We work in unison toward a future of conquest and control. We build mounds toward the sky to live in cubes, live to build the order. The US is activly attacking theocracies because these form of order are fluid and human in nature. Democracy brings with it a ease in life. A sense of effect, despite feeding the order. China? 1.3 billion people living under reproduction rules. A true show of the power of the order. Europe? Socialism, the equalizing of man kind. A single unit of people, all under a blanket of social equality. Socialism is a crystaline form of order, we all have basics and then some, so we are ok with the way we are headed.

So you ask, whats wrong with this order? War. Killing. Limited resources. Varrying personal goals of leaders. People gain power withing the order and sway it in strange directions. Are we better off for it? We live longer and easier lives than thousand of years ago, but are we better for it? "But life is better." you say. Is it? Or is that the passification talking? Is that the Order talking.

Step back, look around, ask yourself, "Is this the way life is supose to be?"

Are you acting to stop it? Or are you ok being passive til the day you die?

All this talk, and no one is acting. I've seen the future... and it is a grim place filled with empty people who are just but organs to the beast of order.

Could be the best post I've read here and I've read most of them.
You're absolutely right, we've been living in the New World Order since the late 80's and it was so skillfully done, we're all still waiting for it to happen. It's over, we're fat and happy and will keep letting the governments do whatever they want so long as we have satellite and plasma TV's.

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
Could be the best post I've read here and I've read most of them.

You're absolutely right, we've been living in the New World Order since the late 80's and it was so skillfully done, we're all still waiting for it to happen. It's over, we're fat and happy and will keep letting the governments do whatever they want so long as we have satellite and plasma TV's.

I would have to agree with you aswell,
i certain cases, the theories do point to the new world order movement already completed and we are living in its control, secretly that is.

that is pretty much exactly true. i read a paper a year or 2 ago that a guy wrote on students at princeton (i believe) talking about how they basically take everything there professors say as absolute fact and how when he went there in the 60's everyone questioned everything about authority. if i can find that paper i will post a link... it was excellent

i agree 99% with what is said up above

obviously this thread has Intelligence behind it
something that is hard to come by these days

Bravo for the Good Thread!

I think the NWO is in control
Everything is very orderly nowdays

Everyone is pacified ; and they would rather continue watching their TVs , driving their New SUV or truck, playing with their computers video games, indulging in sex as much as they can, living the "simple life" in a manner of speaking

Even I, whom consider myself to be a Revolutionary, or is that a Classicist?
anyhow, even I am pacified completely
i dont want to DIE
i dont want to be locked up in Prison

So i do not fight
I sit here and think
we are still allowed to think
usually lol

I do not fight because I enjoy life
i love my wife and child
i love learning and thinking and being pacified by the luxerys of modern splendor

I do wish for change, but I fear enacting it

What happens to those whom wish to change the world for the better?
Look at Martin Luther King Jr!
John F Kennedy Robert F Kennedy
Malcomb X Abe Lincoln
Look at Jesus!

DO YOU really want to enact Change?
The cost is Extremly HIGH
your LIFE

is it worth it to you?

to me right now, its not worth it
so i sit here and do not do anything except talk

Change is expensive guys

Originally posted by muzzleflash


I think the NWO is in control
Everything is very orderly nowdays

Everyone is pacified ; and they would rather continue watching their TVs , driving their New SUV or truck, playing with their computers video games, indulging in sex as much as they can, living the "simple life" in a manner of speaking

Wow if thats the NWO im all for it

''Everything is orderly'', would you prefer chaos in its place?

''People are pacified'',would you rather have people angry, fighting and violent in its place?



[edit on 29-1-2005 by ShadowXIX]

Originally posted by ShadowXIX

Originally posted by muzzleflash


I think the NWO is in control
Everything is very orderly nowdays

Everyone is pacified ; and they would rather continue watching their TVs , driving their New SUV or truck, playing with their computers video games, indulging in sex as much as they can, living the "simple life" in a manner of speaking

Wow if thats the NWO im all for it

''Everything is orderly'', would you prefer chaos in its place?

''People are pacified'',would you rather have people angry, fighting and violent in its place?



[edit on 29-1-2005 by ShadowXIX]

not chaos, and perhaps "orderly" isn't the right word either, i think what he and the original poster are trying to say is that things are so orderly there isn't room for change, just mindless drones going about there day.

Change can be good Anarchy is not IMHO. I think half the people who are Anarchists have now clue what Chaos would be like without any order.

[edit on 29-1-2005 by ShadowXIX]

I wasn't advocating chaos or anarchy. Rather, I was trying to point out that order has taken over so much in many countries people fear chaos. People cling to the NWO out of laziness and fear.

Look at the United States durring Vietnam and the current war in Iraq. Durring Vietnam half the country was "up in arms" over the war and the reasons for it. People marched, for YEARS, all across the country, in protest. People defied the government, burned draft cards, feld the country and took up a fight against the government's choice. With Iraq there were protest early on, all have since faded. A sense of appathy and helplessness has taken over.

There will never be another civil war in the US. No mater how different people in the state become from eachother, niether side can/will muster the energy or dedication to fight and die for what they believe in.

Europe, once at virtually constant war is forming the EU. And while the US initiates war over false reasons everyone stands by and watches. No force, not even sanctions.

This is our future, the human races. We will get up every day, go to work, and feed the Order. We will provide services for its citizens, run its companies, and work in its beurocracy. We will be content to breed and be entertained by the media, and make the next generation just that much more complacent with the idea.

And what do we get in return? What do we get that we didn't have under the roman empire... or in feudal europe? What benefit does society provide for us? Science makes us live longer, work longer, relax better... to what end? Social peace? No, we still war. Enlightenment? No, TV gets dumbed down more every year. Spirituality? No, faith strays from its original intent every time a holy placed is used for politics again.

All of this is not a conspiracy, but rather evoluion, social evolution. To go beyond where we are now we must crystalize into a single entity. Ants in a collective. Most of us are workers. Some are drones. And elections give us a new queen every 4-35 years.

Welcome to the NWO everyone. Structure won, the individual lost.

So, what do you value? What makes life good for you? Is the NWO providing it?

Welcome to the NWO everyone. Structure won, the individual lost.

I would have to disagree because the New World Order was smart enough to print their name on the US dollar, which has stood as their tool for some time now. I think they plan for theirs to last a thousand years --a high task for any order.

All the nukes are still poised. If nuclear war occurs within the next thirty years and humanity gets set back to the 1800s, with large parts of the earth utterly destroyed, will you still say that the period between 1980 and 2035 was the New World Order?

As long as there are nukes ready to launch and that fact is not discussed, there is no order of any type, just the semblance of it.

I am wondering what advice you would give to Joe Six-Pack who lives in this current NWO. What practical advice would you offer him since your post seems so condescending toward the "us" who failed to prevent it. What would you propose?

Throughout history there has been a king and his subjects. Without a king the subjects would exterminate each other.

You want individuality??? Buy a hunting knife, a rifle, a survival guide and then move your ass to Montana and live by yourself in the woods. NO ONE will stop you. Thats is your freedom. We live in the most free society in the history of the planet. Because 99 % of our society is ignorant, lazy, and immoral does not mean we have to be. Blah blah blah.... I'm bored

I find it interesting the example said relating this to a colony of Ants. While it seems stable, if you take out the queen, the colony crumbles. Whats the queen subsitute in this case? economy?

I've got to dsay I agree with you, Quest, people have been brainwashed for a long time now, I mean, Once in an English class, we were having what i'd LIKE to call a debate but it was more of a civilised argument (if that's possible) but I was saying that the New World Order exists and gave proof, but a teacher didn't believe it so everyone thought because a teacher said it's wrong it MUST be wrong, that's brainwash if you ask me, just because people don't want to believe something, they refuse to believe it.

I've got to dsay I agree with you, Quest, people have been brainwashed for a long time now, I mean, Once in an English class, we were having what i'd LIKE to call a debate but it was more of a civilised argument (if that's possible) but I was saying that the New World Order exists and gave proof, but a teacher didn't believe it so everyone thought because a teacher said it's wrong it MUST be wrong, that's brainwash if you ask me, just because people don't want to believe something, they refuse to believe it.

Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Change can be good Anarchy is not IMHO. I think half the people who are Anarchists have now clue what Chaos would be like without any order.

[edit on 29-1-2005 by ShadowXIX]

Agreed.
Anarchy would result in utter chaos, just look at Iraq after Saddam fell. No police or Army, it fell into complete anarchy.

Well, thats got to be the best article I've read on this board, its entirely sensible. Its not that I fear order, I fear of living a normal life, we all want to be individuals, and important but we've lost that right due to order.

If we want to make an impact we should focus on keeping the order, but raising the standard of living for all people. We should be working on creating a more healthy environment, reducing toxic emissions, utilizing more exotic forms of electricity and potable water production. We need to be less oil and corporate dependent.

Ants.

As we advance as a species we become more and more insect in mentality. THis is good for the species but bad for the individual. Insect are the most sucessful type of animal on the planet. They live in massive swarms in almost every part of the world.

For thousands of years people existed in small communities up to city-states. While being structured, law and mentality was based on the people of the community. When you neighbor died you lost a friend, maybe you lost your butcher or your iron smith. Now we face a new age though, the age of structure over community.

Durring WW2 and many wars earlier in history people went to war willing to die for that cause. Men in Europe and North America stood up and said "I will die for my family, for my neighbor, for my home. But those days are gone. Now people die for thier country, they are more hesitant to go to war because they do not feel they are protecting something personal. This is because we are at a stage in our evolution where the fighting men are no longer protecting thier community, they are but soldier ants to the colony.

Ants value the queen only as long as there isn't another ready to take over. Like democracy, they are loyal to the leader only as long as they are leader, no more, no less. Worker ants, toiling away supporting the governments and thier economies.

All of these roles require moving toward the advancement of the order, the increase in structure and power, all at personal sacrifice. People will now work and play away thier lives for the economy rather than thier dreams or abitions. Scientist who grew up loving learning and exploring end up fed by government grants to build new arms and legs of war for the order.

Look at our "advancments" over the last 50 years. Do they server us, or do they server the order.

Cell phones. When you are at work, moving the machines of capitalism, earning taxes for the government, you use cell phones all the time. When is the last time you chose a cell phone over a land line to sit down for a call and conversation to a loved one far away. If you want to get in touch with your mom and catch up on things.... do you reach for the cell? This is not to say cells phones are only work related, but did they fill a role in the BETTERMENT of YOUR life? At best they probably made calling a friend from the pub easier.

Why do people fight and die over oil? Oil does not make your life better. If anything oil lets you drive a car to go BACK to your family that you had left for a job in another city. You job.

How many of you go to work because it is what you love? If you do not love your job, why do you go? Because the order needs you too. In our system, you MUST have money. You must advance the order to live.

But more than any of these minor thing, the worst part of living under the NWO is that you, and your community, your state, your province, your half of the county, may not change things.

If Tony Blair and a group of leaders say its time to bomb Iraq, you, as part of the machine, WILL bomb Iraq. Your work will supply the money. You will feed the government and the order. And yet is it YOUR fault people get lown apart by bombs? "No, I'm against the war!"

Thats right, your feelings, morals, played no part in the fact that you supported war.

This is our future, ants to the hive. We move with the order because that is our only option. Where are the city-states? Where are the communities that live under thier own laws? Gones, things of the past, eaten by the order. Conquered by war or tempted in by an easier life.

Evolution has spoken and we will become as the insects. People will choose modern medicine over the small community every time. People will choose the NWO over no military protection.

I do not preach anarchy or chaos. The idea that a community of less than 500,000 is a good idea has just been so far removed and earased from our minds that it sounds like that is what I am promoting.

In the end though, this is all just talk. The NWO has won, and we move on to our world of ants.

Blah blah blah. Think of the movie The Matrix. Most people are not ready to be 'saved', to be told what is wrong, or how to fix it. The way things are now, well, thats just got to be the right way. Its just got to be.

You can't make people think for themselves, you can only show them by doing your thinking for yourself.

The little bit of unsolicited advice I do have for people is to not become resigned to the way things are. We live in a time of change, and just because we have witnessed a lot of change in the last 15 years, we assume thats it. The change is over, things are in place.

Try the perspective that the NWO is trying to make the change that is ahead as difficult as possible for most people. Imagine that our society is a time bomb and they are pushing over-consumerism for when people begin to realize they need to discard materialism, and they are trying to cause that inner conflict. The inner battle is not lost yet.

No one thinks the change lies ahead of us?

No one thinks the Earth physically is YET to undergo its most large-scale disasters?

No one thinks that India/Pakistan and Israel/Middle East situations are going to be exploited for conflict, so as to induce even bigger changes in global society?

Or does everyone just want to sit back, and be told how its going?

You see, they control 80% officaly of the American population, ppl like us are 20%(based on a survey done by the History Channel in 1999; for it's "History Mysteries: Secret Societies" episode.). That was 55 Million ppl then, accroding to them. But if someone found some way to "bridge" the gap of thinking between the "sheep" and us, they would then become like the Grasshoppers in "A Bug's Life". To put it simply, they would be "Bye, Bye, Bye". The only way were going to win is to pull a "buffy" and study, study, study, study, plan, prepare, educate, and if and only if necessary FIGHT. Don't give up, I and other members can recommend books you can check out at the libary or buy real cheap at a bookstore.

WAKE UP EVERYBODY, SO THE NWO CAN GO DOWN, AND WE CAN LISTEN TO BSB, AND DANCE AND STUFF!!!!!!yay.

BSB2005-ATS/BSB RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!