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Rolling Stone: Welcome to Donald Trump's Ignorant America

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posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 05:00 AM
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a reply to: Tardacus

Spending on those things is not what got your country into debt.

What got your country into debt was nothing to do with social programs, the arts, intellectual pursuits in science and technology or any thing like them.

What got your country into debt were the following things, which account for the overwhelming majority of the problems your nation faces economically:

The banking crisis and recession, origin 2007-2008: This, even nine years on, is STILL responsible for more of the debt than any current program running internally in the US. The bank bailout has not been paid for, and will not be paid for until generations, plural, have passed, if at all.

War: Trillions of dollars sunk into a black hole, whereby both sides of the conflict were receiving funding from the same sources, and in which the justification for that war was totally illegal, baseless, and without as single, solitary merit either in law, or in principle. If we include the entirely black element of the budget for the war, which includes things like the spending which went into the intelligence agencies during the period, the number would grow higher, but the black budget is not a known value, because too much could be potentially estimated about the capability increases that the NSA and other agencies have undergone, as a result of knowing the figure invested in them precisely. Suffice to say that any agency that can misplace a number of billions of dollars, as the intelligence community did, should be considered a far greater drain on resources than any social program ever is.

If you can afford to continue to waste money on things like illegal war, which only aids your government in enslaving you all and placing you under greater scrutiny with systems like those Snowden warned us about, then you can afford to maintain the arts and the humanities.




posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 05:18 AM
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American art and entertainment has always been commercially driven with very few exceptions I can think of. It's not like Europe where some of its most famous works were produced for the royalty and are too high brow (boring) to be commercially viable. I do love some of the classics though... especially the ballet.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: Profusion


This is Donald Trump's America: one where things like art and books and science and learning and thoughtful consideration of complicated problems are deemed worthless and tossed aside.


Now if only the roiling stone was worthy of this self appointed description they would at least have some fundament to their point. But seeing as they are far from that they end up looking like nothing but living proof as to why it is just wasted money. Maybe if they took a page of their writers from the 70's or early 80's, then they might end up to actually be deserving of such a description.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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Maybe it's time for the Limo-Libs to start driving a used Chevy.




posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: hutch622
America you have a president . Those that dont support you President and those protesting in the streets are borderline traitors .

They all need to wake up .


Does that include the Tea Party protests when Obama took office?

Or are you being a hypocrite?



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: pianopraze
When you can't pay your bills...


You shouldn't be buying art.


You mean Trump?

Doesn't pay most of his bills.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

all that is probably true but the fact is we are in debt now in a lot of debt. when you find yourself in unsustainable debt you have to start cutting out unnecessary expenses.
if the country goes bankrupt the humanities and arts won`t be getting anymore money then.
going bankrupt with a well funded humanity and arts program isn`t going to be a win for anybody.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: Tardacus

Well, if you want a cut in unnecessary programs, start with things which also remove your liberties, like the NSA's mass surveillance initiatives, war for profit (for the few), drug policy which supports private prisons and damages communities at the same time, and get rid of business and corporate interest from your government! THAT is where a genuine cost cutting exercise would start!



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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Government subsidies/loans/grants to pay for projects/supplies/classes so people to get interested in advanced Art Degrees.

Government subsidies/loans/grants to pay for college tuition for an advanced Art Degrees.

Government subsidies/loans/grants to pay for rent/projects/food for artists with advanced Art Degrees.

Do people really wonder how our elected officials spent us $20 Trillion in the hole?
edit on 21-1-2017 by 200Plus because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: 200Plus

As previously mentioned, it was not by supporting the arts and humanities. Its been covered in the thread, top of this page in fact.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

I know. Shrimp treadmills aren't cheap.

To be honest, finding out that the Endowment for the Arts funded Piss Christ (from ATS) caused me to donate. So there is a bright side to every story I suppose.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 12:03 PM
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Fck Trump and fck the wife beaters and subservients!!!!!

We tried. He's done. Our numbers are growing.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: 200Plus
Government subsidies/loans/grants to pay for projects/supplies/classes so people to get interested in advanced Art Degrees.

Government subsidies/loans/grants to pay for college tuition for an advanced Art Degrees.

Government subsidies/loans/grants to pay for rent/projects/food for artists with advanced Art Degrees.

Do people really wonder how our elected officials spent us $20 Trillion in the hole?


Bankers doubled the debt then you put them in charge. You're a subservient!!!!!!!



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: BrokedownChevy

You gonna paint your way out of bondage?


edit on 21-1-2017 by 200Plus because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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Rolling Stone? This is a magazine that considers Kurt Cobain a better guitar player than Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac, Dimebag Darrel of Pantera, Alex Lifeson of Rush, James Hetfield of Metallica, Roger McGuinn of the Byrds, among many others. They have been a joke of a rag for forever and a day.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Lughnasadh

originally posted by: hutch622
America you have a president . Those that dont support you President and those protesting in the streets are borderline traitors .

They all need to wake up .


Does that include the Tea Party protests when Obama took office?

Or are you being a hypocrite?

Main difference was the Tea party protesters were not setting cop cars on fire...
They had legitimate concerns with our monetary policies and the ever expanding tax code.

This time around?
I doubt half of these over educated unemployed mental midgets even know why they have taken to the streets in the first place.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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Don’t be sill, Trumps masters are what is known in conspiracy truth, the south western elite alliance. Thtas why he has those oil magnets in his cabinet.

Trump does present a dilemma. One had to either make an intelligent choice of the ugly reality of empowering the Republican Party or maintain half-human state under Hillary.


I’m afraid you may have made the wrong choice in Trump



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 02:12 PM
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They LIE anyway ,HE SHOULD HAVE said, Soldier of Fortune Magazine.
The Russian would have been more accepting then.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

What alliance?



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