It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Planned Parenthood Abortion Clinic Manager: There’s one “Big Lie” It Wants Everyone to Believe

page: 3
19
<< 1  2   >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 10:22 AM
link   
a reply to: dawnstar

To say govt funds to PP to assist in an abortion or two is a bit of a stretch.

I think the Catholic Church should give up their 501(c)(3) non-profit status not only in hospitals, but across the board as it allows the govt to dictate what they can and can not do. Catholic hospitals should not be involved in abortions and their schools should not be forced to teach Common Corruption.

Of course that will mean that approximately 1 in 7 hospitals beds in the US will disappear. So be it.


edit on 1/21/2017 by sad_eyed_lady because: (no reason given)




posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 03:02 PM
link   
Thanks to the Supreme Court ruling on Healthcare we can now tax abortion

MAGA



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 01:44 AM
link   
March 7, 2017

Today, President Trump offered to make a deal with Planned Parenthood.

""Did you hear what Trump did with Planned Parenthood? (chuckles) He offered to let Planned Parenthood keep all of their federal funding if they would stop doing abortions. (laughing) That’s all they do!

Everybody thinks that Planned Parenthood does all this great women’s health stuff. They don’t do mammograms. They don’t do anything! They do abortions, and they have “counseling” to talk women into doing abortions. So Trump comes along and says: You don’t want to lose federal funding? Fine. Stop doing abortions and we'll continue to give you every dime of what you’re getting.""

Excerpted from Political Genius: www.rushlimbaugh.com...

News Article with More Details: www.nytimes.com...

edit on 3/8/2017 by carewemust because: because because



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:07 AM
link   
a reply to: seasonal

I love how your so concerned about the half billion dollars going to PP and yet I don't hear you complaining about the 400 billion spent on a new jet program that doesn't work.

A half billion isn't sh*t to spend tax dollars on. That's nothing.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 06:45 PM
link   
This has got to be THE BIGGEST pile of BS - that I have ever seen on this site.

Second line, edited again - because - yeah - the above is all that needs to be said.
edit on 17-3-2017 by FalseMove because: you people make me insane



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 07:18 PM
link   

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: seasonal

I love how your so concerned about the half billion dollars going to PP and yet I don't hear you complaining about the 400 billion spent on a new jet program that doesn't work.

A half billion isn't sh*t to spend tax dollars on. That's nothing.

National defense has a higher priority than helping people find a way to escape their responsibilities.
The F-35 hasn't worked since the Bush administration...
So blame Bush here I'm sure it will be nostalgic for you.

Don't give me this moral posturing garbage!
You and I both know the majority of abortions performed are not because of rape or a danger to the mother. It's a result of people(males and females) being irresponsible. That is why I have an issue with my tax dollars funding this nonsense.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 10:27 PM
link   
a reply to: JAY1980

So now it's about morals then??

I thought you were upset about the money. That's what I was talking about. 1/2 billion dollars spend on women's health or 400 billion on a non working jet. Which one of those do you complain about, the 1/2 billion for women.

Let me know when when our tax dollars aren't wasting an additional 350 billion on something that doesn't work and perhaps I'd be with you. But I'm sure that half bill. is doing much more good than that 400 bill. ever will.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 10:36 PM
link   

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: liveandlearn
a reply to: dogstar23

I have always wondered how taxpayer dollars are separated. Do they actually take that money out and designate it to other services?


Same way most organisations do it. Separate funds that cant used for other reasons.


Organizations also do something called 'budgeting' and so long as they know they are getting tax dollars for certain activities they can put non-tax dollars to other activities. Remove the tax dollars and the non-tax dollars would have to be re-apportioned.

What it boils down to is that the money is spongeable.

The best way to definitively assure that tax dollars are not going to PP abortions would be for PP to divest the abortion mills into a separate medical entity funded entirely by private money. If PP does truly keep the funding and budgets separate, this should not be a problem and cause no interruptions in services. The fact of the matter is that they cannot, because the tax money does indeed support the abortion activities.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 10:49 PM
link   
a reply to: Teikiatsu

Trouble is we can say that about our tax dollars going to something we don't agree with. Everyone also has a different list of what's ok and what's not.

Certain things we will never settle or agree on either and those are the things better left alone. Changing them just causes trouble so you just do it and society runs smoother for everyone.

Nobody is special and gets to pick and choose because their opinion is worth more than others. It's not much money overall so suck it up.

Otherwise everyone gets to decide what they want to pay for and it all falls apart. Because nobody wants to pay for anyone else but that's how it works.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 10:50 PM
link   
a reply to: Teikiatsu

Trouble is we can say that about our tax dollars going to something we don't agree with. Everyone also has a different list of what's ok and what's not.

Certain things we will never settle or agree on either and those are the things better left alone. Changing them just causes trouble so you just do it and society runs smoother for everyone.

Nobody is special and gets to pick and choose because their opinion is worth more than others. It's not much money overall so suck it up.

Otherwise everyone gets to decide what they want to pay for and it all falls apart. Because nobody wants to pay for anyone else but that's how it works.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 10:57 PM
link   

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Teikiatsu

Trouble is we can say that about our tax dollars going to something we don't agree with. Everyone also has a different list of what's ok and what's not.

Certain things we will never settle or agree on either and those are the things better left alone. Changing them just causes trouble so you just do it and society runs smoother for everyone.

Nobody is special and gets to pick and choose because their opinion is worth more than others. It's not much money overall so suck it up.

Otherwise everyone gets to decide what they want to pay for and it all falls apart. Because nobody wants to pay for anyone else but that's how it works.


How about we all get along and stop federally funding for all of the above? Everyone is entitled to an opinion because it's their own damn money going into these things! Let's stop it all! Vote libertarian!!



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 11:02 PM
link   
a reply to: Throes

Stop all taxes. Sounds great man. But there are some government things that are a good thing. You can't just not fund anything. That's just dumb.

It won't work. Have you looked at the world??? I don't think so. You're dreamin.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 08:07 PM
link   

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Throes

Stop all taxes. Sounds great man. But there are some government things that are a good thing. You can't just not fund anything. That's just dumb.

It won't work. Have you looked at the world??? I don't think so. You're dreamin.


No we don't need to stop all taxes, but we can stop giving money to things that are not federal responsibilities. Do that, and you end up taxing the People and the States less. Then the People and the States can work out things in their own local areas.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:34 PM
link   
a reply to: Teikiatsu

and we'd be having the same danged argument, only on a state level.
it is in the public interest to ensure that the population has adequate healthcare. if you don't believe me, ask yourself how you would feel sending your kids to a school where half the kids are sick and unable to go to a doctor at least to ensure it's not contagious. so, if the federal gov't stopped programs like medicaid and such, then, I am pretty sure that the states would have to pick it up, weather they were poor little alabama, or a much better off state like california or ny. and, a major epidemic that started in alabama could easly spread worldwide within weeks!
so, I really do see healthcare as an interest that the federal gov't should have, especially with all the hype they put out about terrorism and biological weapons in their attempts to justify wasting more and more money on bombs to drop on villages full of kids halfway around the world.




The best way to definitively assure that tax dollars are not going to PP abortions would be for PP to divest the abortion mills into a separate medical entity funded entirely by private money. If PP does truly keep the funding and budgets separate, this should not be a problem and cause no interruptions in services. The fact of the matter is that they cannot, because the tax money does indeed support the abortion activities.


they do have another alternative...
right now, they are getting just about all their federal funds through medicaid and title x... FOR SERVICES RENDERED.
meaning they provide the services, and instead of charging the patient anything, they send the bill for the services they provided to the gov't. alot of doctors will no longer take medicaid because the payments that medicaid is willing to pay doesn't cover the cost of the services that are given, so I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that the money they are getting from the gov't is being used for abortions... since it's payment for services they had already provided! but, well, I guess that planned parenthood could always just decide not to take the medicaid or title x anymore, just go to a income based sliding scale that starts off with a flat rate of $15 or $25 and all those medicaid and title x patients would probably be flocking to the county health clinics that yous seem to thing is so equipped to handle them where they wouldn't have to pay anything for the services while those who have insurance that is willing to accept planned parenthood in their plans can still get their free birth control coverage and such. then, we could all see once and for all how necessary planned parenthood really is..



new topics

top topics



 
19
<< 1  2   >>

log in

join