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Planned Parenthood Abortion Clinic Manager: There’s one “Big Lie” It Wants Everyone to Believe

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posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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Story on Planned Parenthood, and their monthly abortion quotas, $500,000,000 in taxpayer $$ every year, and a well paid president Cecile Richards who earns $600,000 annually.
The big lie is that PP is in business for women's health, when in actuality, according to the story, they are in it for the revenue from abortions. Interesting read.

25 years ago Sue Thayer worked for Planned Pas an entry level assistant and was promoted to office manager position for 18 years. For 17 years she believed the big lie. That lie is that PP was protecting women's health and PP was NOT about abortion, but about preventing the need for abortions.


Nearly 25 years ago, Sue Thayer was employed by an Iowa-based Planned Parenthood of the Heartland facility as an entry-level assistant, and soon promoted to an office management position, according to Alliance Defending Freedom.

This position she maintained for 18 years. Her job description included family counseling and staff, medical record and financial oversight duties.

“For 17 years, I believed the big lie – the lie that Planned Parenthood, America’s largest abortion chain, was all about protecting women’s health,” Thayer told the Washington Times. “Not about abortion, but about “preventing the need for abortion.”
www.lifenews.com...

With 1,000 abortion done a day, PP receives $500,000,000 in tax payer money annually. PP also has assets in excess of 1.5 billion $, not bad for a non . The president of PP Cecile Richards knocks down a health $600,000 annually in pay.


“While taking the lives of nearly 1,000 unborn children every day, Planned Parenthood quietly receives more than half a billion dollars every year from the federal government,” Thayer wrote.

“Planned Parenthood boasts assets of $1.3 billion — not exactly the figure that comes to mind when thinking ‘nonprofit.’ What, you may wonder, does the leader of the top abortion provider in the country make? Cecile Richards makes $600,000 per year — 11 times more than the average American household whose tax dollars fund her paycheck,” she continued.


PP receives half a billion tax payer $$$ but they expect a donation equal to 50% of the actual cost of the visit. Even if the person paying is very poor. Nice.
And PP knows where the real money is and that is in abortion. 46% of there revenue is from abortion, and PP started a mandate in 2013 to meet abortion quotas each month.


She continued: “Planned Parenthood receives $542,000,000 in federal funding, yet asks women who live at or below the poverty line, who depend on federally-funded healthcare to make a donation — proof that Planned Parenthood is much more concerned about its bottom line than women in need.”

As Thayer wrote in her editorial in the Washington Times: “The final veil had been lifted and Planned Parenthood’s big lie was exposed: Planned Parenthood is not about helping women access health care. Instead, it is about making money. And abortion is its moneymaker. Telemed abortion is its mega moneymaker.”

Thayer concluded: “The evidence is even more convincing considering that Planned Parenthood has issued a mandate stating that each of its affiliates must have at least one clinic offering abortion services by 2013. Clinics that provide abortions are given ‘abortion quotas’ to be reached each month. Planned Parenthood is run as a business, and they’ll do whatever it takes to ensure business is booming.”

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posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 09:26 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

Lifenews?
Really?


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posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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Need to call PP what it really is: The assassination of babies.

These people protest wartime collateral damage ... yet appear to be sociopaths where their profits are concerned.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Do you think you are going to read this in the Huff post?



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:04 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Bluntone22

Do you think you are going to read this in the Huff post?


I think he meant that why would you post something from a group that has lied about abortion services in the past to push their propaganda?



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

How are those assets out of line for a company with as many surgical centers and clinics as PP has? Non-profit status doesn't mean "small" - what do the Red Cross' assets look like? Probably much larger, I would guess.

Also, taxpayer money doesn't pay a dime for abortions - which is why they ask even the poor to contribute.

As for "quotas", I don't buy it, but maybe if there was a reliable source with evidence, I could look into it.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:17 PM
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a reply to: Pyle

Unaware of the lies about the abortion industry.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Pyle

Unaware of the lies about the abortion industry.


I can tell that you didn't research the source and I noticed you called it "abortion industry", too.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: dogstar23

If the tax payer money was pulled, PP would be able to keep performing abortions then?

How do they keep the money separated?

I found the asset thing funny too. If you are in the abortion industry, you need the equipment to stay open.

As far as quotas. Money has a funny way of doing gross things. Like selling livers.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: Pyle

The story says 1000 abortions performed daily, I would call that an industry. Maybe a cottage industry, or small industry but an industry all the same.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Pyle

The story says 1000 abortions performed daily, I would call that an industry. Maybe a cottage industry, or small industry but an industry all the same.

The word you were searching for is ... thriving.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:33 PM
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The taxpayer money is billed through medical insurance. So if you have medical assistance or something and you get a procedure done there, they bill the government insurance at the rates that the government insurance set for them. They don't get a "budget", they just invoice. In that sense, each hospital and clinic in the country that accepts government insurance programs is "taxpayer funded" to the degree that they bill the government for services performed for patients with government insurance. I'll note that in some states (My state of Minnesota, as an example), anyone under the age of 21 is eligible to enroll in a state-sponsored, low-deductible insurance plan which is wildly superior [in terms of deductibles and out of pocket costs] to what you get once in the private market. So this covers a lot of young women.

If you don't have insurance, they will still serve you. For free, but they will ask for a donation. When I was a minor I accompanied a couple of girls to planned parenthood to secure birth control for them. Idk if they had insurance through their parents (probably, I wasn't really thinking of that at the time) but they ran it as though they didn't have any insurance and the planned parenthood gave them the birth control (and a bunch of condoms and a lesson on safe sex and preventing pregnancy) and then asked in a really chill way if they could afford to make a donation. Sometimes the answer was no and sometimes the answer was yes. The couple of times I saw it, I saw no change in demeanor or service quality based on the answer to the donation question, which was always asked AFTER the servicse were provided/performed.

I imagine the donations help to pay off some of the cost of provided birth control FOR FREE to people who can't afford it.

Now why would they even bother giving out birth control and condoms for FREE if they really just want to do abortions?

Now, I'm going to give up something rather private. I was with a girl who wanted to have an abortion. Planned parenthood was the first attempt. They gave her the runaround, scheduled an appointment weeks out, hours of travel distance away (of all their clinics in all their towns, only one of them was actually equipped to perform abortions. In the entire state) and there was MANDATED counseling both by phone and in person about why abortion could be bad for your mental health and all the myriad options to avoid abortion. It was also quite expensive. The individual I was assisting ultimately chose a private abortion clinic which performed the operation with much less fuss (not counting some interesting individuals shouting abuse from what looked like a deer stand propped against a privacy wall) and for cheaper.

So my personal anecdotal experience is in contrast to the original post's theories.
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posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: TheBlackTiger

Thank you for the reply.

At 46% of the revenue for PP you better believe they are interested in preforming abortions. The president of the PP does not make $600,000 for loosing revenue.

Then we have the undercover interviews about selling particular "fetus" parts with costs of the products discussed over lunch.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: dogstar23

I have always wondered how taxpayer dollars are separated. Do they actually take that money out and designate it to other services?



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: liveandlearn

I would imagine there are $500,000,000 ways to make money flow from the no no side of PP to the OK side of PP.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: liveandlearn
a reply to: dogstar23

I have always wondered how taxpayer dollars are separated. Do they actually take that money out and designate it to other services?


Same way most organisations do it. Separate funds that cant used for other reasons.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:45 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: TheBlackTiger

Thank you for the reply.

At 46% of the revenue for PP you better believe they are interested in preforming abortions. The president of the PP does not make $600,000 for loosing revenue.

Then we have the undercover interviews about selling particular "fetus" parts with costs of the products discussed over lunch.


Ok, so when you say "thanks for the reply" and then just repeat yourself, do you mean that you read the reply and forgot it? Or that you disagree with it? Because you didn't address anything that I said. You just repeated claims you made already.

I asked a really specific question.

Why are they giving out free birth control pills to women even if they can't pay even one penny for it?
Why are they giving out free condoms to anyone who asks for them?
Why in a state of nearly 10 million people would there only be one of their clinics able to perform abortions if that's their real business and they have a clinic capable of performing women's health checkups and distributing birth control in nearly every town of at least 20,000 people?
Why wouldn't they streamline the abortion process to encourage buyers?
Why would they mandate anti-abortion counseling to those seeking abortion?

As for $600,000. Do you need to be explained "gladiators vs bricklayers"? Honestly? I think you're aware that, given the size of planned parenthood, that is a discount price to . such an organization, especially one so perpetually embroiled in controversy.

And the videos, that old bugbear? Let's be real here. If you were tearing down a house, and someone said they wanted you to save the crown molding for a project of theirs, wouldn't you tell them, "At least you have to pay for the extra time and attention we have to take to keep intact what you need for your project." If you're against abortion, fine. If you're against research on aborted tissue, fine. I don't agree with you, but I don't consider it such a clear cut case that I don't understand why people would be against it. But damn, argue the issue of human life or something. Argue "plowing under a germinated field". There's a real argument for you guys. There's no need to sidetrack your whole argument with utter nonsense like those videos. Maybe you're sickened by it, but surely you can understand the business of it. Someone performing abortions isn't going to suddenly be against scientific research on some spiritual grounds. So why is that so surprising? They were negotiating rates to compensate the extra specialist hours necessary to provide what the requesters needed, just like in the "saving parts of a demolition house" analogy. We can argue about whether the house should have ever been torn down, but let's not argue whether or not it makes sense to pay the demolition team to save something from inside.
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posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:51 PM
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a reply to: TheBlackTiger

According tot he story:


“As taxpayers, the return for their significant investment in Planned Parenthood is incredibly low. Aside from the thousands of abortions, let’s take a look at what they offer their patients. Most clients are not seen by a medical doctor, a nurse clinician or even a nurse. Birth control supplies, pregnancy tests, even webcam abortions are given without the client ever seeing a physician. In rural centers — like the two I managed — there is rarely, if ever, a doctor even in the building.” Webcam, or telemed abortions, are performed using a web camera. In these procedures, a woman never sees a doctor in person before receiving abortion drugs to abort her unborn child.


Did PP mandate counseling-- is this a regulation I really don't know.

I don't see what condoms and birth control have to do with this $500,000,000 taxpayer subsidy.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: TheBlackTiger

According tot he story:


“As taxpayers, the return for their significant investment in Planned Parenthood is incredibly low. Aside from the thousands of abortions, let’s take a look at what they offer their patients. Most clients are not seen by a medical doctor, a nurse clinician or even a nurse. Birth control supplies, pregnancy tests, even webcam abortions are given without the client ever seeing a physician. In rural centers — like the two I managed — there is rarely, if ever, a doctor even in the building.” Webcam, or telemed abortions, are performed using a web camera. In these procedures, a woman never sees a doctor in person before receiving abortion drugs to abort her unborn child.


Did PP mandate counseling-- is this a regulation I really don't know.

I don't see what condoms and birth control have to do with this $500,000,000 taxpayer subsidy.


Again what you call a "taxpayer subsidy" is only payments paid out by government health insurance for services to patients covered by those services. Women could probably get those same services from a hospital or regular clinic, but for the same reason that I bring my car to a front end shop if I need my tie rods replaced, women go to planned parenthood. You can't go there if you have the flu, they can't help you. But they know women's reproductive health. And honestly they're one of the few places that do.

I assume you've never been in a position of being in a relationship with someone who had a hormonal imbalance leading to irregular bleeding and some other side effects, but try bringing that to a general practice doctor. I'm sure there's some good ones who know, but they tend not to. So you go to the clinic who specializes in women's health down there.

PP mandated counseling in Minnesota. My understanding is that "planned parenthood" is not a unified organization but rather a series of members which make up the whole. So that regulation may not be true everywhere but it was true in Minnesota.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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planned parenthood gets federal money for COVERED services that they render.... most abortions AREN'T covered by these programs. it is also worth noting that many doctors have opted out of these gov't programs because many times the amount the gov't pays them barely covers the costs of providing the care if that.
many churches also receive federal money for services rendered also... counseling, helping immigrants with housing and their needs, daycare, to name a few. if you use the argument that we just can't be sure the money is being used strictly for the purposes laid out in these programs, well, sorry, we can't be sure when it comes to these religious groups either... of which some of these catholic hospitals probably would be questionable also...
you speak of the salary of the CEO of planned parenthood, but if her salary is questionable, then we should also be putting these catholic hospitals under the same scrutiny, since Judith Persichilli of Trinity Health is reported to have a total compensation package in 2014 of over three million.

nonprofitquarterly.org...

as far as I know, after many, many investigations into planned parenthood, nothing has been found that would result in defunding, or else it would have been defunded by now.

so, really the sum total of your complaint is that this particular healthcare provider is probably the most closely associated with abortion, although, more than likely, most ob/gyns have done a few abortions in their time of practice. although, none of them receive federal money for any elective abortions. you either have to prove that planned parenthood has committed fraud or take the federal money away from all healthcare providers that happen to do abortions.. which would probably mean reducing the number of ob/gyns that would be willing to serve the medicaid population.
I guess the daddies can deliver those babies at home!



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