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Is Trump Trying to Start a Holy War?

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posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
Am I just out of touch??


Respectfully... Yes.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

Pretty old. Born on the day Nixon got impeached.
Still, yes Bush, sure, but Trump? no way.

Something just strikes me as this being a massive foreshadow sweeping across the globe, pitting "christian" nations against islam.

It just makes my conspiracy spidy senses think that we are going to be facing the actual arm of the new world order army.
Russia and the west, untied in uniform and occupation flags, toting machine guns from town to town, coast to coast, continent to continent, turning the entire planet into a military occupation.
Total clampdown.

Trump will be the new Nixon. Not just the War on Drugs, but the War on Everyone.

But that's just me.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

this would be considered normal for a republican inauguration 40+ years ago, you have to remember that trump is 70 years old.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Quantumgamer1776
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

How old are you?

Did you not catch any of Bushes speeches?


Yeah, but it wasn't so explicit and direct as this. Also, Bush was an actual Christian. For an agnostic/atheist like Trump, the Jesus pandering felt like it had a precautionary warning to it. I'm sure I'm not the only non-Christian who felt a bit less safe when listening to that.


Exactly.

For the umpteenth time I realize. - Not my President.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

Pretty old. Born on the day Nixon got impeached.
Still, yes Bush, sure, but Trump? no way.

Something just strikes me as this being a massive foreshadow sweeping across the globe, pitting "christian" nations against islam.

It just makes my conspiracy spidy senses think that we are going to be facing the actual arm of the new world order army.
Russia and the west, untied in uniform and occupation flags, toting machine guns from town to town, coast to coast, continent to continent, turning the entire planet into a military occupation.
Total clampdown.

Trump will be the new Nixon. Not just the War on Drugs, but the War on Everyone.

But that's just me.


You took from Trump's speech that he plans to unite Europe, Russia and America into one military alliance to take over the world? Wow.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
He is just appealing to the evangelicals


Nope...to every fool who has religion.

And to all the atheist fools who base their lives against it.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: RedDragon



You took from Trump's speech that he plans to unite Europe, Russia and America into one military alliance to take over the world? Wow.


sure


edit on 20-1-2017 by EmmanuelGoldstein because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
He is just appealing to the evangelicals


Nope...to every fool who has religion.

And to all the atheist fools who base their lives against it.


Atheism is not anti-God or anti-religion.

It's simply a lack of belief in them.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

It is a war of christian western values vs Islamic values+state atheism(moral relativism).



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

this would be considered normal for a republican inauguration 40+ years ago, you have to remember that trump is 70 years old.



So am I.

Some people progress in thinking.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
He is just appealing to the evangelicals


Nope...to every fool who has religion.

And to all the atheist fools who base their lives against it.


Atheist fools? You mean those who prefer evidence over fairy tales? Right?



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: jellyrev

It's so facking lame.
I feel bad for this planet, including myself.

We should all be friends and be building giant spaceships and exploring our universe.
Not building more walls and churches and other cultural devices that divide us.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
We should all be friends and be building giant spaceships and exploring our universe.
Not building more walls and churches and other cultural devices that divide us.


In the Star Trek universe it took going through a world war to get to that point. I hope reality is different.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
He is just appealing to the evangelicals


Nope...to every fool who has religion.

And to all the atheist fools who base their lives against it.


Atheism is not anti-God or anti-religion.

It's simply a lack of belief in them.


Atheists are just as skewed and religion based as the worshippers...certainly a waste of time.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

and yet he had a rabi deliver a speech/prayer



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: Taggart

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
He is just appealing to the evangelicals


Nope...to every fool who has religion.

And to all the atheist fools who base their lives against it.


Atheist fools? You mean those who prefer evidence over fairy tales? Right?


Atheists are as close minded and controlled by religion as the fools in church...just from a different slant.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:54 AM
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Do you guys have a link to the speech? I just read through it online and it didn't mention God one time.

www.realclearpolitics.com... rica_first.html

Sorry it's a block text, I'm too lazy to go and hit enter after practically every line.



PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Chief Justice Roberts, President Carter, President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, fellow Americans and people of the world, thank you. We, the citizens of America, are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and restore its promise for all of our people. Together, we will determine the course of America and the world for many, many years to come. We will face challenges. We will confront hardships. But we will get the job done. Every four years we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power. And we are grateful to President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent. Thank you. Today's ceremony, however, has a very special meaning because today we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another or from one party to another, but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the people. For too long, a small group in our nation's capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have bore the cost. Washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered but the jobs left and the factories closed. The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs. And while they celebrated in our nation's capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land. That all changes starting right here and right now, because this moment is your moment. It belongs to you. It belongs to everyone gathered here today and everyone watching all across America. This is your day. This is your celebration. And this, the United States of America, is your country. What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. Everyone is listening to you now. You came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement, the likes of which the world has never seen before. At the center of this movement is a crucial conviction that a nation exists to serve its citizens. Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families and good jobs for themselves. These are just and reasonable demands of righteous people and a righteous public. But for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists. Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities, rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation. An education system flush with cash but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge. And the crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. This American carnage stops right here and stops right now. We are one nation, and their pain is our pain. Their dreams are our dreams, and their success will be our success. We share one heart, one home and one glorious destiny. The oath of office I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans. For many decades we've enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry, subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military. We've defended other nations' borders while refusing to defend our own. And we've spent trillions and trillions of dollars overseas while America's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay. We've made other countries rich while the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has dissipated over the horizon. One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores with not even a thought about the millions and millions of American workers that were left behind. The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed all across the world. But that is the past, and now we are looking only to the future.

edit on 20-1-2017 by jjkenobi because: tried to fix the link but it's pasted correctly



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

culture matters. Some cultures are simply superior in economic and social outcomes.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: Annee

No, atheism is the believe there is no god.

Nontheism is the absence of a believe in god.



posted on Jan, 20 2017 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: jellyrev
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

It is a war of christian western values vs Islamic values+state atheism(moral relativism).


There are freemason,jesuit and neocon interests in the Trump administration whom at least purport to believe in the Christian God,hopefully these forces will be kept in check by Trump, but yes they are probably a better choice than the socialist/muslim/Soros agenda of the last 8 years



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