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Air Force considers LAA experiment

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posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: yittak

Why use a ski-ramp carrier? A flat deck carrier could give you 30+ knots of wind over the deck on it's own, not counting natural wind. I've seen E-2s, C-2s and S-3s deck launch with no trouble. Ski-ramps work good with jets, not turboprops.




posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: JIMC5499

just a thought about our new queen Elizabeth class carriers , F35's might be total overkill for a lot of missions we will need to fly from them



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: yittak
Out of curiosity , could a super tucano take off a ski ramp carrier and land on one without a tail hook ?


A really good comparison of the Embraer versus the AT-6 is at awin.aviationweek.com...



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

But the test necessitated live ordinance. So cost effectively this was an opportune moment.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: 727Sky

There was a capability that hadn't been proven that they were confirming on this mission. You'll notice that the B-2s used in this raid were the amongst the airframes most recent upgraded in their avionics kit. It's a pretty incredible capability they demonstrated actually.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: aholic

There are two live fire exercises going on or starting shortly. This is another example of using a very expensive sledgehammer to crack eggs.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:06 PM
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I don't disagree, but to play the other side for a moment. The Whiteman boys don't see much action and combat experience is invaluable.

Two, there were a few new systems tested that related to BDA and the new com links used on the bombers that needed a live raid to confirm. Sadly, it was a matter of confirming casualties and the other systems needed to orchestrate this test were already in country. They would have had to been moved to Guam or Diego to test them there, and that would have taken assets away from a live fight. So no could do.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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I should also mention this is a system that will be instrumental on the B-21, so testing it now was important to the timeline.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:14 PM
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Your first point is what I've been saying. What combat training did they get that they wouldn't in a live fire exercise? The exercise would be better for them, because there would be actual threats for them to avoid. What possible threat to a B-2 is there in Libya that they could justify as training?

I'm usually the first one to say live training and testing is a good idea. But this is getting ridiculous. If you're going to train or test a new system, at least do it somewhere that has something you can pretend is a threat.
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posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 10:18 PM
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I think they did, simulated. But when it came time to link up with the real deal, and the real deal happened to be in Libya at the moment monitoring the camps. So voila.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 07:41 PM
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Invitations for the OA-X experiment are expected to go out tomorrow. They're keeping the requirements purposefully vague to allow the industry to come up with what works.

The only requirements put forward so far are that it has to operate in an austere environment, off a runway that's 6,000 feet long, and burn less than 1500 pounds/hour in fuel.

www.flightglobal.com...



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