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Serious question: why are you not keen to see the tax returns?

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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

And is that why we've all seen Obama's academic records?


Funny how trump has sealed his academic records in the exact same way you have, as has Obama.... Also funny how trump refuses to show his long and short form birth certificates!




posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 05:56 PM
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Isn't Pocahontas trying to stir up support to force tax disclosure and the blind trust thing. Change the rules of the game after the fact.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce


Also funny how trump refuses to show his long and short form birth certificates!

Our initial investigation has shown that Donald Trump was actually born in Moscow under the name “Donvlad Trumpsky”



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: ROBOTNINJADRAGON
a reply to: CynConcepts

They want to see his tax returns to not prove his income, but rather authenticate it's legitimacy.

Can you understand the difference?

Releasing them proves he doesn't commit illegal activity. Maybe you don't understand how the Tax Return tradition started with Reagan? People accused him and he released them to calm the storm. Trump is creating his own storm just blatantly breaking the tradition, most likely because of dirty business.


Then the agency that brought down Al Capone suddenly got stupid?



You think bootlegging and the Mafia are the apex of 'big evil business'?


I love how people say "relax" over making an informed decision and that "he will eventually". If Trump releases them at all, it will be too late by the time he does. That part is planned.

Let's not kid ourselves however, the real issue is he has probably committed illegal activity and he has perfectly trained his supporters to look the other way over anything he does, even if it breaks American tradition, values etc.

The tragedy isn't that he dodges taxes and became President. It's that despite not releasing his tax returns, people already knew this and voted for him anyway. It sets some sort of new idea that winning an election is more important than how or who. Hypothetically speaking, if the Republicans did have foul play in the election, this would be the year I felt like I saw the most support of dirty behavior as long as it in line with partisanship. Yes I know there are evil dirty liberals, good job clearly sinking to their levels. You didn't even hit the brakes avoiding that this cycle.

If there were a single word to describe how nasty the Right is, it's hypocrite. Nothing they do directly is bad, but everyone they spew hate towards, is no more guilty of any of the crimes the Right demands justice for.

Under no circumstance in the History of EVER will a Liberal Billionaire become president without financially disclosed information prior. The Right needs to recover from it's 'special treatment'/'we're victims' syndrome.
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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: ROBOTNINJADRAGON

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: ROBOTNINJADRAGON
a reply to: CynConcepts

They want to see his tax returns to not prove his income, but rather authenticate it's legitimacy.

Can you understand the difference?

Releasing them proves he doesn't commit illegal activity. Maybe you don't understand how the Tax Return tradition started with Reagan? People accused him and he released them to calm the storm. Trump is creating his own storm just blatantly breaking the tradition, most likely because of dirty business.


Then the agency that brought down Al Capone suddenly got stupid?



You think bootlegging and the Mafia are the apex of 'big evil business'?


I love how people say "relax" over making an informed decision and that "he will eventually". If Trump releases them at all, it will be too late by the time he does. That part is planned.

Let's not kid ourselves however, the real issue is he has probably committed illegal activity and he has perfectly trained his supporters to look the other way over anything he does, even if it breaks American tradition, values etc.

The tragedy isn't that he dodges taxes and became President. It's that despite not releasing his tax returns, people already knew this and voted for him anyway. It sets some sort of new idea that winning an election is more important than how or who. Hypothetically speaking, if the Republicans did have foul play in the election, this would be the year I felt like I saw the most support of dirty behavior as long as it in line with partisanship. Yes I know there are evil dirty liberals, good job clearly sinking to their levels. You didn't even hit the brakes avoiding that this cycle.

If there were a single word to describe how nasty the Right is, it's hypocrite. Nothing they do directly is bad, but everyone they spew hate towards, is no more guilty of any of the crimes the Right demands justice for.

Under no circumstance in the History of EVER will a Liberal Billionaire become president without financially disclosed information prior. The Right needs to recover from it's 'special treatment'/'we're victims' syndrome.




Or he has nothing to hide and is just trolling.

I'll go with that.




posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: burgerbuddy

Ah yes, the finest quality of a President-

Trolling.
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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:38 PM
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I don`t want or need to see any president`s tax returns, if there`s a problem with a president`s tax returns that`s the IRS`s responsibility to deal with, why should I have to do the IRS`s job?
If the president hasn`t done anything illegal on his taxes why would anyone want to see them?
lets suppose the president`s tax return shows that he made 1 billion dollars and pay no taxes and it was all legal, why would you want to know that? it might seem unfair to you but there`s nothing you could do about it because it`s all legal.
I would rather NOT know that the president is making a lot more money than me and paying less taxes than me.

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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: burgerbuddy
The Mitt Romney troll was excellent.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:42 PM
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The truth hurt's.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: ROBOTNINJADRAGON

We don't have one, we aren't victims ,we only win.
HENCE the current political middle finger THEY just ate.
It occurred to me that once the old EDUCATED ,COMMIE ,Alinsky guard die off( WHO HAVE been trained in HISTORY and CIVICS), the Prog/ SJWs will ONLY have their current surviving strain to train the NEXT socialist movement.

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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

You can't legitimately speculate if there was illegal activity or not without the returns.

Releasing the returns would either put it to rest, or prove he's guilty.

The only reason NOT to release them is if guilty, as putting it to rest would be a 'good' thing, and he would also have the advantage of not breaking Presidential Tradition.

YOU might not care about seeing them, as you unequivocally think he's innocent.
Only by seeing the returns can it be proven. Facts matter, not just your gut feeling.

OTHERS want to see them to prove he's guilty. Just because you don't THINK he's guilty doesn't mean he is innocent.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: ROBOTNINJADRAGON

We don't have one, we aren't victims ,we only win.
HENCE the current political middle finger you just ate.
It occurred to me that once the old EDUCATED ,COMMIE ,Alinsky guard die off( WHO HAVE been trained in HISTORY and CIVICS), the Prog/ SJWs will ONLY have their current surviving strain to train the NEXT socialist movement.


You only find unification in your division of other Americans.

Old-school Republicans were the best no question.

The second no-question is that you are not them.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: ROBOTNINJADRAGON

I REALLY didn't like their foreign policy decisions I think the RINOS are as bad as the DNC...WORSE they have the umbilicus to old money and secrecy.
Division is for the purposes of conquering.America IS already occupied by Vets who agree,NO MORE nation building ,time to change up.
We need to look inside first.
THEY ARE gunning for China however.
WE digress too far.
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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

And I find sympathy with that, I agree the Left treats vets/military like they're turds. And I can see/feel the fear that the 'average white man' faces with immigration in this country.


TBH the Right platform is #ing immaculate compared to the Left platform. The issue is the Right's leadership are morons, while the Left has good leaders.

This country needed a good Republican president really bad. I can't help this feeling of being let down with Trump, as "good" was sacrificed to get a Republican in there, and that's a worthless move.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: ROBOTNINJADRAGON

We have had enough lawyers and conspiracy wise HE wasn't at the Builderburgers meetings.
He has hired an EXCELLENT cabinet,at least .
Even if THEYT don't agree with him.
I do feel hopeful.
AND THAT is QUITE strange to me.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

The problem with this observation of mine, is cyclical.

The Right has bad leaders, because the most influential people on the Right do not normally participate in politics, short of economic interests of their own. They find 'that stuff to be a waste of time' as they become business owners etc. and contribute more money than face.

As a famous quote suggests, "Those who can't do, teach", this leaves the idiot Republicans to run the show for what actually matters for everyone else. They're easily public enemy #1.

Contrast this to the Left, and 'Politician' is suddenly a monumental achievement, and very respected person. Sarcasm aside, these are the people we GIVE power, so their huge egos have a source.

Trumps move of pulling massive business heads out of the shadows to run these fronts is logical. This doesn't mean you can't be diverse and mix it up a little. His elite cabinet is a little too uniform for my taste in terms of this single idea. That kind of idea honestly shouldn't apply to an entire cabinet, maybe a couple members, that's where he crosses the line.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: ROBOTNINJADRAGON
I do feel hopeful.
AND THAT is QUITE strange to me.


Also, not to tap you specifically, but this 'unknown' hopefulness that is always found when 'bad things happen to liberals' is a general theme on it's own that is distasteful for me.

It's the separating idea between what makes me feel Conservative, and what makes them 'Republican.'



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: ROBOTNINJADRAGON

I mean more that SOMEONE might go after the insanity and change it.
TO WHAT I don't know, crap just an infrastructure rebuild would make it all worth while, to ME but the bullet dodged was a NASTY one.
I swear, that crazy bitch would have gone for it in Syria like Libya too.
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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: ROBOTNINJADRAGON

it`s not our job to audit the president`s tax returns most of us wouldn`t know what we were doing anyways.

The IRS is much more qualified to do that then we are if the IRS found nothing wrong with the tax return that was filed who are we to tell them they are wrong? besides it wouldn`t make any difference to the IRS what we thought.
if he was guilty of something the IRS would have found it and we would all know about it by now.

unless you are suggesting that the IRS is in on some conspiracy to let Trump cheat on his taxes?

even if you saw something on his taxes that you thought was wrong or criminal there`s nothing you can do about it as long as the IRS has already determined that everything is legal.The IRS isn`t going to prosecute him for filing a legal tax return just because some people don`t like what`s on his tax return.


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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 11:37 PM
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Oa reply to: fencesitter85Obama has NOT submitted a legitimate birth certificate...American's are proud to be American...We do not flinch from showing our birth certificate to anyone...Obama is not an American citizen...

We know Trump is filthy rich...We do not need to see his tax returns...We don't care...Most of us don't care about Obama's tax returns or anyone else' s...




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