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Obama commutes much of Chelsea Manning's sentence

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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Does this mean Assange will be giving himself up?

That was the deal after all.


If Assange does give himself up to US extradition as he promised he would if Mannings sentence was commuted, he would arrive under a Trump administration.

A few years back Trump was calling for Assange to be executed..wonder if he still feels the same way.

Strange times.
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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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He did say that if Chelsea Manning was to be released he would hand himself in. It's going to happen and I think Trump will pardon Assange.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: Jiggly
snowden up next?


Snowden can not be pardoned, because he has not stood trial and been convicted of anything. Ditto on commutation.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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This is excellent news. A great choice by Obama. I haven't liked him in several years but this is great.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: kosmicjack
Well, Manning's info hurt the Bush administration. So, no sweat off Obama's back.



BS...Mannings leak hurt the US Military (not "Bush" or "Obama") and rightly so. They killed 12 people from an apache, including two children and two journalists..and then LIED about it in reports. Saying they were caught up in a different battle, location and crossfire with insurgents..none of which was true. The brass was covering it up...and for the sake of every good and honest US soldier, manning did the right thing IMO.


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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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Looks like Obama is on a roll.He pardoned Gen.Cartwright.
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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: saudi
Looks like Obama is on a roll.He pardoned Gen.Cartwright.
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Curious and curiouser.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

Yes indeed man..



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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He's not wasting any political capital doing this, doesn't have to even talk to anybody about it.

I won't be surprised if he does a few more by the end of the week.

~Tenth



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Jiggly
snowden up next?


Snowden can not be pardoned, because he has not stood trial and been convicted of anything. Ditto on commutation.


He can. The President can pardon in advance and prevent charges from being filed. I understand that he has to state what the pardon is for. Hillary, we know about; selling influence and disregard of security procedures plus obstruction for lying about it. Will he protect that bastion of legal knowledge, Loretta Lynch?



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

I won't hold my breath but what if we see a thing like "Obama pardons Snowden".Now that will be just beyond curious.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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I see it as an attack on Assange's integrity, who's unlikely to turn himself in, and Trump can't pardon him because he's still the exec in charge of WikiLeaks who could publish leaks under Trump's Presidency.

Very interesting move.

I wonder if Manning being a transgender had anything to do with it?



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Does this mean Assange will be giving himself up?

That was the deal after all.


Since he's a man of integrity who keeps his word.. Most likely, YES.

Source: time.com...
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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5
Snowden can not be pardoned, because he has not stood trial and been convicted of anything. Ditto on commutation.


Presidential pardons don't require a conviction, they don't even require a charge actually.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Very interesting days ahead.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:53 PM
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EDWARD SNOWDEN Congratulations Chelsea Manning and says "Thanks!" to President Obama.

SOURCE: thehill.com...



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: saudi
a reply to: carewemust

Very interesting days ahead.


The guts behind this pardon was very "Trump-like" of President Obama. He said "F-You" to his loser Democratic party, LOL.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Does this mean Assange will be giving himself up?

That was the deal after all.


Since he's a man of integrity who keeps his word.. Most likely, YES.

Source: time.com...



Unless it was in writing I doubt he would.



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Does this mean Assange will be giving himself up?

That was the deal after all.


Since he's a man of integrity who keeps his word.. Most likely, YES.

Source: time.com...


Strange times indeed, let's hope if in fact Assange does get extradited to the US he doesn't end up a she. :/
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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 05:00 PM
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So do the democrats love Wikileaks again?

It will be interesting to see how their pretzel logic spins this one.




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