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Secret recording of Hitler in Finland.Admits he underestimated Russia.

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posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 08:01 PM
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This is the only Tape of Hitler speaking in conversational terms with the Finish General Manheim. Where the tape is left running until his SS guards find out and stop it at eleven minutes in. Its a very relevant piece of History as we hear the reason for his attack into the Soviet Union, which he would never had contemplated purely because the two fronts led to his demise. So who would have guessed, all he really wanted was the Rumanian oilfields ?, but not Russia at all, he was just scared Russia would invade Rumania and take the oil.
Manheim wasn't impressed as Hitler had done a deal with the Soviets, to annex parts of Finland, until Finish snipers turned the Russians back. Geo politics oil, and Propaganda.
Hitler's planes brakes catch fire as he lands in Finland, a design flaw in the Dormer Bomber, which is edited out ,some interesting stuff. www.youtube.com...




posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 08:10 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

Thank-you for that documentary. First Hitler video I've watched more than a few minutes of. This is very well put together!

Are there any comparable world leaders who are smart and evil like Hitler was, today? Any that are so dangerous that wiping them out right this second could save thousands, or millions, of civilian lives?



posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 08:13 PM
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Soviet Union had a big land. Never underestimate big lands.
Russia united with a bunch of Asian countries and all Easter Europeans such as Ukraine during that time as USSR.
Hitler was a fool thinking he can take on multiple countries at once.

Also if you read Youtube comment, this video is fishy.
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posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 08:31 PM
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I think a documentary like this will bring the shills out from under their rocks. I often wondered what on Earth made Hitler fight on two fronts , because if he had only stuck to one we would all be speaking German by now. Such is the power of oil and mechanised warfare. Lucky for us. Plus that design flaw with the bomber, where the burning brakes and retracted wheels right under the fuel tanks, probably saved more then a few lives.



posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: makemap


I think a documentary like this will bring the shills out from under their rocks. I often wondered what on Earth made Hitler fight on two fronts , because if he had only stuck to one we would all be speaking German by now. Such is the power of oil and mechanised warfare. Lucky for us. Plus that design flaw with the bomber, where the burning brakes and retracted wheels right under the fuel tanks, probably saved more then a few lives.



No, it wasn't what you think.
This is the truth. Hitler did not expect Japan to stab China in the back.
en.wikipedia.org...

Why do you think Japanese soldiers were in Chinese cities?
They were actually suppose to help invade USSR given the right time. But the Japs on the hand stabbed China in the back in which Hitler supported China for a while. Then equipment gets cut off by USSR blocking the way. Stalin knows of the alliance already.
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posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 09:02 PM
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That's an interesting one as well.
Funny how after the demise of the Soviet Union , the workers standards of living, in the western countries started to go down, slowly at first, and now at a plummet. All the Socialist Union movements have been tamed. The "Red flag" is no longer sung at British labour party rallies. By some strange dichotomy the Hammer and the sickle protected our standards of living because it kept our governments scared. Now they seem to have lost respect.



posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: makemap


That's an interesting one as well.
Funny how after the demise of the Soviet Union , the workers standards of living, in the western countries started to go down, slowly at first, and now at a plummet. All the Socialist Union movements have been tamed. The "Red flag" is no longer sung at British labour party rallies. By some strange dichotomy the Hammer and the sickle protected our standards of living because it kept our governments scared. Now they seem to have lost respect.


There is more to it on Wiki.
en.wikipedia.org...

Quote: "Schacht explained to him that the anti-Comintern pact was not a German-Japanese alliance against China. Germany was glad to loan China 100 million Reichsmark and they would not do so with the Japanese."

So everything about Axis being bad to China was a complete lie. Germany wasn't truly allied to Japan. Hitler thought Japs could've relieve pressure from the western side on USSR when Japan had parts of China. Which cause Hitler to make an Axis pact as Germany has no way through supporting China. It didn't even work. Stalin wasn't dumb enough.



posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 09:24 PM
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So how does the narrative work that, it was the Red Army that was going to invade Japan, so Truman dropped the bombs to get an American force on the Islands before they got there. So Russia ended up with a few disputed islands in the North of Japan. This was about the time that China went fully communist under Mao.
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posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 09:39 PM
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It's mainly because Hitler saw the Eastern Europeans as subhumans that should be exterminated.

Actually Hitler told his Wehrmacht and SS Generals that the Eastern Front was a war of extermination and that all Eastern Europeans, Jews and other people deemed undesirable by them are subhumans.

This was the reason why the Eastern Front was the bloodiest theater in the history of the world. Both sides committed various atrocities in a very large scale.

Look up the Einzatzgruppen and the war crimes of the Wehrmacht.


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posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: anonentity
Are there any comparable world leaders who are smart and evil like Hitler was, today? Any that are so dangerous that wiping them out right this second could save thousands, or millions, of civilian lives?



Really?



posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 09:51 PM
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Interesting comment, because their was an MI5 officer that had a flat with a direct line of sight to the podium where Hitler did his speeches. He sent a communique to Churchill saying that he could assassinate him with very little difficulty . Churchill declined..so that was a missed opportunity. Saying that I think their is an agreement between heads of belligerent states that they don't go down this path, because it would then be open season on heads of state.



posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Abysha


Interesting comment, because their was an MI5 officer that had a flat with a direct line of sight to the podium where Hitler did his speeches. He sent a communique to Churchill saying that he could assassinate him with very little difficulty . Churchill declined..so that was a missed opportunity. Saying that I think their is an agreement between heads of belligerent states that they don't go down this path, because it would then be open season on heads of state.



A tyrant's life isn't always at the mercy of heads of state. Especially not in America. I would never condone physical harm towards a sitting president (especially not with Pence sitting on the bench, waiting his turn) but we live in a 2nd-amendment nation. One that is filled with WW2 vets, children of vets, and descendants of the Japanese Americans who were placed in internment camps... all it takes is the dangerous combination of realizing the parallels between Hitler and their own leader, and for the individual to have nothing else to live for.

Again, I honestly hope that doesn't happen. But it certainly wouldn't surprise me if that's how his term is ended.


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posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 11:30 PM
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a reply to: BrainActivity00

You know you can be banned for saying Hitler was a good guy right? Here's the thread that's discusses it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 11:36 PM
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Russia had inferior equipment, inferior training...basically everything that made an "army" an "army" was inferior with Russia.

What Russia had was numbers. Numbers, tenacity and willingness to do whatever it took to push back the Germans.

When you add into the mix that Germany also had long supply lines into Russia, and Russians were holding home turf... it's no surprise that Russia not only stopped, but turned back the Germans.

The weather, long supply lines...and a tough people willing to die in large numbers has always proven to be tough for any army invading Russia.



posted on Jan, 16 2017 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: anonentity
Are there any comparable world leaders who are smart and evil like Hitler was, today? Any that are so dangerous that wiping them out right this second could save thousands, or millions, of civilian lives?



Really?


Really what?



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 12:10 AM
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But Isn't their a possibility that their is a gentleman's agreement that if you loose a war and are the leader. You don't get shot for war crimes?. Kaiser Hirohito Napoleon Of course the mob got Mussolini, but I doubt whether he would have got a noose if captured. Hitler's second in command Hess got a comfy prison sentence , (If it was Hess).....When the Yanks did the interrogations after the war with regards to the coming and goings around Hitler's bunker. It appears Hanna Reich ,was economical with regards to a lot of it. Their were a few runways in use, and a directional navigation system was put in weeks before the main onslaught by the Russians. Their were large planes landing and taking off like large transports with weapons and carrying forty troops a time. Here's a page in a blog that gives an insight into the last few days,s if its read carefully you will find that they were landing and taking off at night in far larger numbers than is at first realised. In fact Hitler could have easily got out.forum.axishistory.com... Its an interesting concept as quite a few reports in this page are by people just trying to survive the last few days without getting killed, and not making money for a book sale.
I mention this because I came across this on the MSM this morning claiming new evidence on his escape...vmetro.co.uk...

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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 12:50 AM
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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 01:08 AM
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originally posted by: Kettu
Russia had inferior equipment, inferior training...basically everything that made an "army" an "army" was inferior with Russia.

What Russia had was numbers. Numbers, tenacity and willingness to do whatever it took to push back the Germans.

When you add into the mix that Germany also had long supply lines into Russia, and Russians were holding home turf... it's no surprise that Russia not only stopped, but turned back the Germans.

The weather, long supply lines...and a tough people willing to die in large numbers has always proven to be tough for any army invading Russia.


Soviet equipment was often technically superior to what the Wehrmacht had, the tanks and artillery were certainly better, and they were produced to a much higher quality after 1943.

The Soviet soldier was no worse trained than the typical Wehrmacht soldier. Towards the end of the war the Soviet soldier was probably better than your average Wehrmacht conscript.

The Soviet officer corps was an absolute trainwreck in 1941, this is true, indeed it was a major contributor to the Germans' early successes. But after all the good officers had been exonerated in 1942 they probably had the better officer corps of the two, they certainly had the most innovative.

The Weather was a fairly negligible factor. The Wehrmacht would've been brought to a halt even if it was the middle of summer.




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