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originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: Greggers
Action equals effect... some effects wanted some effects not wanted; in such a manner behavior becomes habit.
Moral has nothing to do with it... the outcome or reward to act or not for a desired effect however does and it can become habitual with no thought behind it.
The monkey in the cage experiment was duplicated in humans not long ago and the human subjects behaved the same way... monkey see monkey do but monkey doesn't ask why after while it just does. At such a point it eventually becomes pathological; and then when it becomes pathological in the majority of the group as a habit, it becomes a standard or normal baseline... to hold other accountible too, whether ignorant of those standards held or not; they will still be expected to carry them out just the same as if they had known them. But they don't question those expectations... just follow them out of those very expectations of monkey see monkey do.
Morals are an excuse to judge others that all it is... it's an expectational standard not a realistic one
originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: Greggers
It's an empty concept it isn't even real...
it's a make believe label of expectation of behavior given some arising circumstance to behave in a certain way. It's pavlovian in total; training, and expectation to behave or act to those expectations... salivate when I ring this bell; reward or not.
Monkeys display morals... ludacris.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
Without the understanding provided by the existence of a competing category, a person would not be able to understand what it is that is meant when an action is assigned to the category, even in principle. In other words, the claim that an action is not a moral issue is meaningful if and only if moral issues do actually exist.
originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: Greggers
No monkeys? Yeah... not when you've gone back and edited.
I'm done here. GFY.
originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: Greggers
How about ignoring me
You can lie and twist all you want too; you did say monkeys
How "moral" of you... if you are going to argue a case for morals? Display some.
originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: Greggers
I did not read your link about stupid monkeys having "morals"... I read your intro to the article of YOU agreeing with the article saying they did in your own words setting it up... however you went back and snipped out what you wrote about them. Because they DONT have it; it is a MADE up CONCEPT like GOD the DEVIL and other make believe of human mental illness labeling any and everything like it is a real thing and not make beleive that only fools believe to be real and then spout on about it; like it even matters...
Example:
The sun still suns, regardless of what we think or create or conspire to agree about it... I could say 12123.3332* 232 equals the sun and what makes the sun sun I could call the sun kitty kitty pow pow and it won't make any difference... the sun still suns and has sunned and will continue to sun until it is no more... regardless of anything that was, is or ever will be... that you or I, we or anyone that has existed or will ever exist... could ever say or invent, create or believe about the sun.
All of everything is exacly the same way.
There's your to the primer on reality... against all the rote grasping nonsense aside that you've accepted as reality; truth and knowledge.
Who do you think you are fooling here? Only you.
originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
Not interested...
Humans are the dumbest life form on this entire planet;