Trump - Russian connections....FAR DEEPER than anyone ever imagined

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth

You are getting tired of explaining it because it makes no sense.
Obama has done state business in Russia, Hillary has been to Russia, Kerry has been to Russia.

Surrounded by Secret Service men and aware of their responsibilities as representatives of the United States government. Trump was there to grope beauty queens. He even said so on tape.

In case you didn't know it, the iron curtain has been open for some time now. Nuff said?

On the other hand, I have posted somewhere on ATS that Clinton was a board member at Wal Mart and one cannot help but notice the change from all American made to mostly Chinese made since then,,, and here's something which bespeaks the projection from the Democrat camp because it was Hillary herself who did what they are trying to say Trump is doing.

Wal-Mart's success reads like a true-life story of a boot stamping on a human face forever with low-wage workers pushing products made by low-paid slave labor in China and this recent Infowars about CISCO using the Clinton Foundation to squash human rights abuses in China proves this continues a longstanding pattern of Clinton's throwing around their considerable weight to ensure the abuses of human rights continue while backing those committing such actions though claiming just the opposite.
In her 2014 memoir “Hard Choices,” Clinton reiterated her support for human-rights advocates in China. She specifically criticized the Great Firewall, writing that after she made comments about the right to dissent in China in 2011, “censors went right to work erasing mentions of my message from the Internet.”
But the issue of Chinese repression — and Cisco’s role — was already known by then. In 2009, weeks after Clinton’s State Department had named Cisco a finalist for the secretary of state’s Awards for Corporate Excellence (ACE), a report from the Electronic Freedom Foundation noted “Cisco’s deep involvement” in building the Chinese government’s censorship system. The report pointed out that “Cisco engineers gave a presentation acknowledging the repressive uses for their technology.”
Daniel Wade, an attorney who represented Chinese dissidents in a lawsuit against Cisco, told IBTimes that “Cisco knew full well that its products were going to be used to suppress and facilitate the torture of democracy activists.”
“Crony capitalism has defined Clinton’s career, from her tenure on the board of Walmart, to the Wall Street execs whom she surrounded herself with at the State Department, to her allegiance to Cisco, even as it violated principles on which she staked her tenure,” said David Segal, executive director of the Internet freedom advocacy group Demand Progress.

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And who would know better about this stuff than the Democrats who align with Clinton.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Russia is far more dangerous than USSR. USSR was communist. Russia is the modern revival of the Russian empire. Same flag. Same two headed eagle.

a reply to: muse7

So. The guy was a businessman. He has hotels all over the world. He just has to hand the businesses over to someone else now.

a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

Outside of the US, Trump has 3 golf courses in Scotland and Ireland. He does not own any hotel outside the US.

Donald Trump won't lift sanctions on Russia unless Theresa May does so at the same time. This why he won't being suspicious of being a Russian puppet.

a reply to: muse7
What a laugh,if any of this was true,would have been all over the media from MSN,people never use common sense,this is another example

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: muse7
What a laugh,if any of this was true,would have been all over the media from MSN,people never use common sense,this is another example

It has been allover the media. (Not that it means that it's true.) MSNBC, which Donald Trump had a contract with until just over a year ago, has been highly biased in favor of Trump. Why do you think Trump singles out CNN but not MSNBC as "fake news?"

originally posted by: ultimatewarrior4
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

Outside of the US, Trump has 3 golf courses in Scotland and Ireland. He does not own any hotel outside the US.

It's worse than that. Many of the properties around the world bearing his name pay him money for use of that name. Since many ventures in other countries rely on government investments, these licensing fees violate the Emolument Clause of the Constitution. There is no way around that; unless he strips himself of all income from his overseas properties, he is in violation of the Constitution.

a reply to: DJW001

You view is that MSNBC is highly biased in favour of Trump?

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: DJW001

You view is that MSNBC is highly biased in favour of Trump?

Absolutely. Are they discussing Trump's vulnerabilities and covering his conflicts of interest? Or are they portraying the parade of celebrity photo ops at Trump tower as though they indicate that Trump is taking things seriously?

a reply to: DJW001

Interesting.

a reply to: DJW001

Wrong. The emoluments clause only applies to direct gifts from foreign states. If the king of Saudi Arabia sends a million dollars to the personal bank account of the POTUS, then that would be an emolument.

The Trump organization does not belong to Donald Trump. It belongs to the Trump family. As CEO of the Trump organization, Donald Trump has a fixed annual salary. Even if the king of Saudi Arabia sends money to the Trump organization, that is not an emolument to Donald Trump because Donald Trump does not personally benefit from it.

a reply to: muse7

Hillary had much more obvious Russian ties throughout the CF. It's a global market and business links are easy to make. They don't necessarily suggest something bad is happening. Why, if they had this info didn't Hillary use it?? She would have if she thought it would stick. Why would Obama sit on this? He certainly knew. I said the same thing about Obamas birth certificate. Do you seriously think that if there was even the slightest chance that the intelligence was genuine that the opposing side would sit on it until just before the inauguration ?????

I call BS

thats good. lift sanctions gets shares. whats sinister about that? its a good trade. as a Russian immigrant living in america id be happy about it.

Trump=Hillary

Same beast. Different head.

originally posted by: ultimatewarrior4
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

Outside of the US, Trump has 3 golf courses in Scotland and Ireland. He does not own any hotel outside the US.

Ireland, Scotland, Panama, Canada according to Trump Hotels website:
www.trumphotels.com...

As far as Commercial Real Estate holdings/buildings/projects etc.

Argentina

Azerbaijan

Bermuda

Brazil

Canada

China

Egypt

Georgia

India

Indonesia

Israel

Ireland

Panama

Philippines

Qatar

Russia

Saudi Arabia

South Korea

St. Martin

St. Vincent

Turkey

United Arab Emirates

United Kingdom

Uruguay

time.com...

a reply to: Indigo5

None of those are owned by the Trump organization. It's name license only.

According to wiki, the Trump organization has no infrastructure or licensing in Russia or China.

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: ultimatewarrior4
a reply to: DJW001

Wrong. The emoluments clause only applies to direct gifts from foreign states. If the king of Saudi Arabia sends a million dollars to the personal bank account of the POTUS, then that would be an emolument.

The Trump organization does not belong to Donald Trump. It belongs to the Trump family. As CEO of the Trump organization, Donald Trump has a fixed annual salary. Even if the king of Saudi Arabia sends money to the Trump organization, that is not an emolument to Donald Trump because Donald Trump does not personally benefit from it.

of course it belongs to trump...it's a private company, profits go to him and his family, period...you need to read the entire emoluments clause.
and.....YOU have no idea, nor can anyone else show that he DOESN'T benefit from it.....you assumption is wrong, because it has no basis in logic

originally posted by: ultimatewarrior4
According to wiki, the Trump organization has no infrastructure or licensing in Russia or China.

en.wikipedia.org...

wiki?....what? no 4chan or infowars verification?......let's remember that wiki information can be changed by anyone, that's part of their guiding principle