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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: banjobrain
As an American, I cant understand how anybody could rationalize the perpetual state of tyrannical global imperialism that the US has been perpetrating against essentially the entire planet for what's getting towards being an entire century now.
How our nation was founded on rebellion against a foreign imperialist dictatorship, which despite it being our own kin (the British) at the time, we rightfully celebrate it to this day. Well, rightfully, except the part where we're everything we rebelled against. IT'S TOTAL SADISTIC HYPOCRISY.
'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone'.
If anything, American Imperialism perpetrated in Eurasia has prompted Russia to get back in towards their old USSR ways (and CERTAINLY not the other way around).
How can you say it's not okay for them to be imperialist-like on their side of the planet, but it's totally okay for US to absolutely be total imperialists on their side of the planet?
How do you sleep at night knowing your position supports children in hot spots all across Eurasia suffering in every way from dying of starvation to being exploding to little pieces?
And if you're a liberal, how can you dare claim you have an ounce of genuine care for other cultures when you're propping up a US foreign policy that does every evil trick int eh book to destabilize cultures across the globe?
originally posted by: GodEmperor
Let me get this straight, OPs main concern is that Trump may stray from the status quo? That Trump might disengage from the conquests in the Middle East, and work towards a partnership with Russia?
I am curious, what are American interests? Do those interests include you and me? Do those interests benefit us in anyway, or corporate profits?
Trump's comments suggest he is more Russia-friendly, a US-Russia alliance would isolate China, who is by far the greater threat to both nations.
The experts had warned about the Middle East, a prolonged and protracted war, a quagmire. If America is going to topple nations to steal their resources, it's better to be open and honest about it with the American public; don't you think?
We'll know what Trump is based on which country we go to war with next. That's the only guarantee we have from new presidents in the US, we will be going to war with another country.
originally posted by: VinylTyrant
Sorry, you can't blame the division on Trump supporters.
The majority of the country has been mind controlled for some time. All you have to do is look at how pop culture treats Obama as some sort of king. Talk about being on a road to disaster. His owners goals are exactly the end of a sovereign US. I don't know how many times this has to be stressed.
We had no choice to vote Trump because the whole western world wanted us to elect another globalist. We couldn't do it.
Trump has been the only one talking about China's currency.
The only one talking about creating jobs.
According to Hillary there's nothing wrong in America. It's all good.
We see different.
The left has lost its mind.
Many on the right are on their side. These are no patriots.
This whole hacking thing is pathetic.
Isn't it China that supposedly has an army of hackers?
We get hacked all the time.
We hack all the time
There has always been spies on all sides. So why all this hostility towards Russia?
Because they detracted our plans in Syria?
They needed something on Trump besides the usual dirt since he never held office and doesn't care about the petty usual accusations, they needed something else.
Russia is an old enemy.
There you go.
Here we are.
originally posted by: Brian4real
Looks like Russia's taking a page from our own playbook on this one.
Anyone heard of Leo Wanta? He was a CIA agent who was involved in destabilizing the USSR economy. It looks like they're using the same tactics on a greater scale nowadays. There was many reasons for the USSR's collapse, but that 1 man did a lot of damage.
I would also refer to, "The foundation of Geopolitics".
It was written in 1997, and it lists many plans that would need to be put in place for Russia to acquire global dominance. Lets just say with the current global situations, I dont believe they are all coincidental. For example for the US it states,
In the United States:
Russia should use its special forces within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics."[1]
Turkey:
Russia needs to create "geopolitical shocks" within Turkey. These can be achieved by employing Kurds, Armenians and other minorities.[1]
UK:
The United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe.[1]
China: (although it seems contrary to the current situation, this would be the Chess game)
China, which represents a danger to Russia, "must, to the maximum degree possible, be dismantled". Dugin suggests that Russia start by taking Tibet-Xinjiang-Mongolia-Manchuria as a security belt.[2] Russia should offer China help "in a southern direction – Indochina (except Vietnam), the Philippines, Indonesia, Australia" as geopolitical compensation.[1]
(From The Foundation of Geopolitics)
Theres many more tactics that all seem to be happening right now that directly corrolate with this paper wrtten 20 years ago!!!
IMO the OP is 100% right. And Russia moved its first chest piece in 1997.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
This just a short summary of the topics. A search of the title will give you a few .pdf links.
originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: banjobrain
My response is in your other thread.
yeah, Clinton and Obama were all about strengthening the middle class. I must've been in a 8 year coma.
originally posted by: banjobrain
originally posted by: VinylTyrant
Sorry, you can't blame the division on Trump supporters.
The majority of the country has been mind controlled for some time. All you have to do is look at how pop culture treats Obama as some sort of king. Talk about being on a road to disaster. His owners goals are exactly the end of a sovereign US. I don't know how many times this has to be stressed.
We had no choice to vote Trump because the whole western world wanted us to elect another globalist. We couldn't do it.
Well part of the reason is Obama is a likable person (providing the observer is not political)
I don't know how Obama is ending sovereign US, he sure is a gambler waiting until the last 6 days to come for your guns and
put us in FEMA camps. As far as Trump, he IS a globalist. He has businesses in nearly 1/5 of countries in the world, he makes his products abroad in the very countries he rails on about. He is a great salesman in that he has gotten all of you to look past the globalist nature of his empire though. In fact, business for business he is the most globalist president, I cannot think of a president with more global ties and holdings can you?
Trump has been the only one talking about China's currency.
The only one talking about creating jobs.
According to Hillary there's nothing wrong in America. It's all good.
We see different.
The left has lost its mind.
Many on the right are on their side. These are no patriots.
That is not correct, Obama even created a TV special to talk jobs, it's just you guys hate him so much you
didn't notice or care. He is literally talking about jobs and calling it "the most important issue of our era", quote.
abcnews.go.com...
Bernie has too, talks about "these trade agreements have been a disaster for our middle class"
Even Clinton
, hiss boo bring the pyre lol
wtkr.com...
This whole hacking thing is pathetic.
Isn't it China that supposedly has an army of hackers?
We get hacked all the time.
We hack all the time
Trump with Jack Ma (Chinese Billionaire) who's company is constantly steeling American intellectual property, via hacking
and on Jack's Amazon like marketplace, Alibaba where they take American products, manufacture them regardless of patenting and undercut the American products they stole. Maybe it is good Trump is talking to him since it is good to reach out to opponents, but never the less, Ma is the hacker army you are talking about in the flesh.
www.c-span.org.../presidentelect-donald-trump-jack-ma-speak-reporters-trump-tower
There has always been spies on all sides. So why all this hostility towards Russia?
Because they detracted our plans in Syria?
They needed something on Trump besides the usual dirt since he never held office and doesn't care about the petty usual accusations, they needed something else.
Russia is an old enemy.
There you go.
Here we are.
Well contrarily, why are American's so big on Russia right now? I mean the exact same people who were decrying the
secret socialisms of Oabamabumbobummer are now fine and very open with an actual KGB trained regime. You must admit
that is a big reversal.