Why did Israel attack Syria last night?

What do you guys make of this?

This is coming just a few weeks after our intelligence had special meetings with Israel's people, so is it related?

I thought Israel was not opposed to leaving Asad in power.

And I sure don't think they would have attacked without our approval.

a reply to: JoeP2247

Last i heard they don't need permission. As to why? they attacked an airport (completely levelled it) to stop them IS types from flying their missions .............. errr wait!

“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East

The Yinon plan] is an Israeli strategic plan to ensure Israeli regional superiority. It insists and stipulates that Israel must reconfigure its geo-political environment through the balkanization of the surrounding Arab states into smaller and weaker states. Israeli strategists viewed Iraq as their biggest strategic challenge from an Arab state. This is why Iraq was outlined as the centerpiece to the balkanization of the Middle East and the Arab World. In Iraq, on the basis of the concepts of the Yinon Plan, Israeli strategists have called for the division of Iraq into a Kurdish state and two Arab states, one for Shiite Muslims and the other for Sunni Muslims. The first step towards establishing this was a war between Iraq and Iran, which the Yinon Plan discusses. The Atlantic, in 2008, and the U.S. military’s Armed Forces Journal, in 2006, both published widely circulated maps that closely followed the outline of the Yinon Plan. Aside from a divided Iraq, which the Biden Plan also calls for, the Yinon Plan calls for a divided Lebanon, Egypt, and Syria. The partitioning of Iran, Turkey, Somalia, and Pakistan also all fall into line with these views. The Yinon Plan also calls for dissolution in North Africa and forecasts it as starting from Egypt and then spilling over into Sudan, Libya, and the rest of the region.

Israel Plots Largest Settlement Expansion in Occupied Syrian Golan since 1980

a reply to: JoeP2247

Because the Zionist™ who actually run our 51st state, Israel™ wants the resources that are located in Syria. Fortunately for those who detest war and all the wasting of $$$ that gets funneled to the 'war effort' including the $$$ that gets sucked off en route to said war(s).. If HRC™ had won the last erection there is little doubt that the U.S. would've had "boots on the ground" already...

As far as combatting ISIS™ (Israeli Secret Investigation Service) that too is a complete FARCE...

Here is some more info:

www.nkusa.org...
www.nkusa.org...
www.truetorahjews.org...

If One were to actually peruse the info I've provided, they would glean the FACT that it is against The Torah™ (A Holy book of Judaism™) It was TheCreator who took the land and it MUST be TheCreator who re-establishes their "homeland" a bunch of Zionist™ who THINK THEY ARE GOD does NOT qualify...

Shalom Aleichem

a reply to: nOraKat


Here is some more nOra-

WHY ORTHODOX JEWS ARE OPPOSED TO A ZIONIST STATE
First some introductions:

1) What is "The People of Israel" ?

The People of Israel have existed for thousands of years.
They have their own particular, essential nature.
The Torah is the source of their essential nature.
Without Torah and Faith there is no People of Israel.
Whoever denies the Torah and the Faith is no longer part of the People of Israel.
The purpose of the People of Israel in this world is Divine Service.
Their salvation is occupation in Divine Service.
2) What is Zionism?

Zionism is a relatively new thing.
It has only existed for a century.
Zionism redefines the true essential nature of the People of Israel, and substitutes for it a completely contradictory and opposite character - a materialistic worldly nation.
Their misfortune is lack of what other nations possess, i.e. a state and army.
Their salvation is possession of a state and army etc.
This is clearly spelled out in the circles of Zionist thought, and among the leaders of the Zionist State, that through changing the nature and character of the People of Israel and by changing their way of thinking they can set before the People of Israel "their salvation" -- a state and an army.


The People of Israel oppose the so-called "State of Israel" for four reasons:

FIRST -- The so-called "State of Israel" is diametrically opposed and completely contradictory to the true essence and foundation of the People of Israel, as is explained above. The only time that the People of Israel were permitted to have a state was two thousand years ago when the glory of the creator was upon us, and likewise in the future when the glory of the creator will once more be revealed, and the whole world will serve Him, then He Himself (without any human effort or force of arms) will grant us a kingdom founded on Divine Service. However, a worldly state, like those possessed by other peoples, is contradictory to the true essence of the People of Israel. Whoever calls this the salvation of Israel shows that he denies the essence of the People of Israel, and substitutes another nature, a worldly materialistic nature, and therefore sets before them, a worldly materialistic "salvation," and the means of achieving this "salvation" is also worldly and materialistic i.e. to organize a land and army. However, the true salvation of the People of Israel is to draw close to the Creator. This is not done by organization and force of arms. Rather it is done by occupation to Torah and good deeds.

SECOND -- Because of all of this and other reasons the Torah forbids us to end the exile and establish a state and army until the Holy One, blessed He, in His Glory and Essence will redeem us. This is forbidden even if the state is conducted according to the law of the Torah because arising from the exile itself is forbidden, and we are required to remain under the rule of the nations of the world, as is explained in the book VAYOEL MOSHE. If we transgress this injunction, He will bring upon us (may we be spared) terrible punishment.

THIRD -- Aside from arising from exile, all the deeds of the Zionists are diametrically opposed to the Faith and the Torah. Because the foundation of the Faith and Torah of Israel is that the Torah was revealed from heaven, and there is reward for those who obey it and punishment for those who transgress it. The entire People of Israel is required to obey the Torah, and whoever doesn't want to, ceases to be part of the congregation of Israel.

FOURTH -- Aside from the fact that they themselves do not obey the Torah they do everything they can to prevent anyone they get under their power from fulfilling the commands of the Torah, the claims to freedom of religion are lies. They fight with all of their strength to destroy the Faith of Israel.

Because apparently Russia missed a spot

a reply to: nOraKat

And some more:

The Zionists claim that they are the saviors of Israel, but this is refuted by twelve things:

FIRST -- If one contemplates the two thousand years of our exile, take any hundred years even the hardest, one will not find as much suffering, bloodshed, and catastrophes for the People of Israel in the period of the Zionists, and it is known that most of the suffering of this century was caused by the Zionists, as our Rabbis warned us would be the case.

SECOND -- It is openly stated in books written by the founders of Zionism that the means by which they planned to establish a state was by instigating anti-Semitism, and undermining the security of the Jews in all the lands of the world, until they would be forced to flee to their state. And thus they did - They intentionally infuriated the German people and fanned the flames of Nazi hatred, and they helped the Nazis, with trickery and deceit, to take whole Jewish communities off to the concentration camps, and the Zionists themselves admit this. (See the books Perfidy, Min Hameitzor, etc.). The Zionists continue to practice this strategy today. They incite anti-Semitism and then they present themselves as the "saviors". Here are two replies given by Leaders of the Zionists during World War II, when they were asked for money to help ransom Jews from the Nazis. Greenbaum said "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland." (G-d forbid).
Weitzman said, "The most important part of the Jewish people is already in the land (of Israel) and those who are left, are unimportant" (May we be spared).

THIRD -- We see that most of world Jewry lives in security and under good physical conditions, and have no desire to go live in the Zionist State. Whereas many people have left the Zionist State to live under better conditions in other lands.

FOURTH -- The Zionists make a great deal of propaganda to induce people to immigrate to their state. If their state is so beneficial why do they have to make so much propaganda.

FIFTH -- Because nobody wants the Zionists to "save" them. The only way they can get immigrants is by promising poor people material benefits, and even then very few people respond.

SIXTH -- The Zionist State is always threatened by the dangers of war. Whereas the rest of world Jewry live in peace and security, (Except in a few places where the Zionists have undermined their security and fanned the flames of hatred)

SEVENTH -- The Zionist State could not continue to exist without economic support from Jews living outside of the Zionist State.

EIGHTH -- The Zionist State is on the verge of economic collapse, and their money is nearly worthless.

NINTH -- The Zionist State persecute all Jews who are loyal to their Faith.

TENTH -- They start wars that endanger the Jewish People, for the sake of their own political interests.

ELEVENTH - According to the Torah the path of safety is following ways of peace not starting fights with other nations, as the Zionists do.

TWELFTH -- Even if the Zionists could and would provide physical security it would be at the expense of our Faith and Our Torah the true People of Israel prefer death rather than life at such a cost.

It is therefore clear that Zionism is not the savior of the people of Israel. Rather it is their greatest misfortune.

Even though there are some observant Jews and rabbis, who approve of the Zionists, this is not the opinion of the Torah.

The Zionists have enough control over the American news media to make sure that only their side of the story is heard.

They make it look like all Jewry and their rabbis are Zionists, but this is false propaganda.

The most important Rabbis and the majority of religious Jewry are opposed to Zionism, but their voice is not heard because of Zionist control of American news media.

The Zionists terrorize everyone who speaks out against them.

That part of the Jewish masses which is fooled by Zionist propaganda puts pressure on their Rabbis not to speak out.

Between the terror and the pressure of the masses most of the Rabbis are prevented from speaking out.


And finally:

We bring three testimonies of the true opinion of the Torah.

1) In the past two thousand years of the dangers and sufferings of exile not once did any of the Sages of Israel suggest that we make a state to protect ourselves. In every generation we had thousands of Sages well versed in the Torah.

2) We have thousands of legal work of Torah law that have been handed down to us by the Sages of all generations. Not once do we see a word suggesting the establishment of a state. What we do find is warnings against it.

3) The founders of Zionism were all atheists who denied the Torah. All the Torah Sages of that time opposed them and opposed Zionism, saying that Zionism would lead only to destruction.

However the true People of Israel will never change their nature or give up their Faith because of the strength the Creator gives them.

Zionism is a foreign growth in the body of the Jewish People. The end will be that it will rid itself of this foreign growth and remain pure.

Zionism has overcome the Jewish people by force, fraud and terror, but none of this will help them because the truth will always remain with the help of the Creator.

Zionism will not replace the Jewish People. The Jewish People will remain strong in their faith and the Zionist State will cease to exist.

It is therefore, our demand that the State that calls itself ISRAEL, should cease to exist. Since this won't be done, we demand that they cease to call themselves "Israel", because their entire being is in complete opposition to the true People of Israel. The true People of Israel deny them permission to call themselves by that name. The Zionist leaders have no right to set themselves up as the representatives and spokesmen of the true People of ISRAEL.

Since we know they will not fulfill this demand either we feel that at least we cry out the truth. The truth will always remain the truth. By no means or force can the truth be changed. Even if all the world would say that one and one is three, the truth will remain that one and one is two.

Let the truth be declared. The use of the Name "ISRAEL" by that State is a complete falsification. The People of Israel have nothing to do with that State. Zionism and its State have no share and no part in the true ISRAEL.


Shalom Aleichem

No link?

People are getting real lazy around here just to be the first.

a reply to: JoeP2247
Doesn't the recent speech by John Kerry rather undermine the idea that Israel and the current administration would be acting in collusion?

a reply to: JoeP2247

Did Israel do the attack?

There are 'in-country' rebel forces that have attacked millitary targets (and specifically this millitary base) before and Israel has not confirmed that they were involved.

It seems odd to me that in a warzone they start blaming another country. I suppose it is possible, though.

a reply to: chr0naut

Pics or it didn't happen.

I believe this is the 3rd reported attack on Syrian airports by Isreal in the last 2 months... maybe 4th.
Last time their reasoning was to prevent a weapons shipment being sent to Hezbollah.

Not sure why this time is getting more attention. Maybe due to Syra's threat of retaliation?

Winter

a reply to: JoeP2247

Could it be that the F-35s operating in the ME that were not Israeli did the dirty deed ? Not saying that Israel didn't do it but without more data we just don't know . It could have been the Syrians but I highly doubt it . Remember that Turkey (which has a NATO base ) talked about false flags way back in this conflict . We know that there are covert operations but there may be another layer to covert operations not exposed yet .

originally posted by: Winterpain
I believe this is the 3rd reported attack on Syrian airports by Isreal in the last 2 months... maybe 4th.
Last time their reasoning was to prevent a weapons shipment being sent to Hezbollah.

Not sure why this time is getting more attention. Maybe due to Syra's threat of retaliation?

Winter

The timing is too suspicious - and Israel is not even commenting that I know of.

They just poked Russia in the eye - don't you think? Assad is Putin's little piss ant.

Russia's navy just skedaddled out there a couple days ago too. And isn't Israel risking an attack against them by this action and maybe by more than just Syria - for what???

Interesting takes on this by all - but maybe something a lot bigger is going on here.

a reply to: DISRAELI

D . the attack on Der.Azor was a indication of another layer of covert operations against Syria that went against the deal between Kerry and Russia to cooperate in the war on terrorist . That whole agreement blew apart when the collation forces helped (inadvertently) wink wink ,ISIS to recapture the position .

a reply to: the2ofusr1

I believe each attack has been with f-15's using standoff air to ground missiles. No need to risk their brand new F-35's when they can attack the Syrian capital without ever entering their airspace. Think air-launched cruise missile.

Winter

a reply to: Winterpain

OK ..I was just throwing it out there but if they have the data then its Israel that did it .Next stop would be the world court .

Probably because it could?

Why does Israel do anything?

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: chr0naut

Pics or it didn't happen.

I wasn't saying that the bombing and fire didn't happen.

But usually if Hezbollah says something, you should look for corroboration before believing it.

Like those pictures that Hezbollah released of a farther mourning his dead child and wife in Aleppo. They kept re-posing the bodies during the picture shoot and there's one where the dead girl is lifting up the blanket covering her face, with one arm. Dead kids dont usually lift things up.

originally posted by: Winterpain
a reply to: the2ofusr1

I believe each attack has been with f-15's using standoff air to ground missiles. No need to risk their brand new F-35's when they can attack the Syrian capital without ever entering their airspace. Think air-launched cruise missile.

Winter

I believe Israel doesn't really have any F35s (thank god) that they could deploy. Nothing against Israel, but I really think they should be in only American hands right now. And it is almost certain, to me, that this was a missile attack - they still violate air space though.

I swear to god I do not know what to make of this - especially in view of our build up on the Russian border in Poland.

Something is going down I think - I can almost smell it.