Stand down Orders in place for an assassin plot?

originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: skynet2015

Can you post these videos showing these attempts on Trump?

Also the link is not found.

They are probably talking about the British guy who pulled a gun at a Trump rally and was quickly taken down and the guy who tried to rush the stage at another rally and was quickly taken down.

O.P- Some say Trump is the Establishment, some say he isn't. I don't think he is, and as a consequence will be a target, but he will be given some time to step into line before they get rid.

I wouldn't call those attempts, the Brit hardly skinned the cops gun and the other was taken down over nothing other then we thought he (insert excuse).

Well the British guy pleaded guilty to planning to shoot Trump. Admittedly it wasn't the smartest of plans, but none the less.

Undoubtedly there will be more attempts, Trump is a devisive character,as has been evident since the election, but it won't be at the inauguration. They wouldn't be so brazen would they?

www.theguardian.com...

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: skynet2015

It's as if the article is purposely written to be vague. People are assuming President Obama has given orders.

It's the Trump transition team issuing orders.

The Army and officials with Trump’s transition team did not immediately respond for comment.

Trump isn't the President yet, how can he issue orders?

Enlighten me?

a reply to: skynet2015

Hey good job.
Usually stories like this don't come out until after the fact...

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

If they were to it definitely wouldn't be in a obvious place.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

well traditionally, an assassination attempt is either a Kool Aid Drinker of a given political ideology or novel, or is the result of organizations including domestic, foreign, and criminal bodies. Considering the volume of animus against trump, the size of the expected crowds, and the mass media, there are sufficient Kool Aid drinkers to not need an organization to warrant high risk.

However, putting things into a state of disorganization eerily resembles a stand down order at some event like Benghazi. The guard in this case isn't being ordered to stand down (yet) but it does resemble "training exercises? or real terror attack?" 9/11 potential. It opens the way for thousands of soldiers standing guard to have conflicting orders. When orders become conflicted, even Kool Aid drinkers can become dangerous.

In the sense that there is disorder in the ranks, and there will be angry people "at the gates", it is like benghazi. Benghazi has considerably more disorder in the ranks, but the inauguration will have considerably more people, likely more angry people. All they need is one of those angry people to lose it, or one determined angry person to drive a mob. It is even possible that the disorder could be exploited to use provocateurs to drive an angry mob into the guard, creating a soldier vs. protestor violence scenario, "LIVE ON CNN", leading to severe legal or financial consequences, in the forms of other riots, molotov cocktails, looting, etc. in other cities, and curfews, crackdowns, and so on.

And that doesn't even require an assassin. That just requires some leader with a bullhorn and disorganized Troops.

a reply to: skynet2015

Multiple attempts on his life? Ha ha .
That crazy English kid? Where is he now?

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
That's pretty #ing scary.

Schwartz said that he has been swamped with inauguration duties and packing up four decades’ worth of papers and accumulated items, and has not yet been able to inform District officials, including the mayor and the chair of the D.C. Council. Unlike in states, where the governor appoints the National Guard commander, in the District that duty falls to the president.

Schwartz said that he has not been told why he was asked to step down. “I’m a soldier,” he said, noting that he was following orders and has no regrets. “I’m a presidential appointee, therefore the president has the power to remove me.”

What the hell is Obama up too?

I know it is knee jerk thing to blame Obama, but it sound to me like Trump would be more likely to change the person in charge of this, especially considering the way he has replaced other people who have been working it for decades.

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: skynet2015

It's as if the article is purposely written to be vague. People are assuming President Obama has given orders.

It's the Trump transition team issuing orders.

The Army and officials with Trump’s transition team did not immediately respond for comment.

Trump isn't the President yet, how can he issue orders?

Enlighten me?

Do they really allow the incumbent President to chose who will command the National Guard at their successor's inauguration?

Wow.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: skynet2015

It's as if the article is purposely written to be vague. People are assuming President Obama has given orders.

It's the Trump transition team issuing orders.

The Army and officials with Trump’s transition team did not immediately respond for comment.

Trump isn't the President yet, how can he issue orders?

Enlighten me?

Do they really allow the incumbent President to chose who will command the National Guard at their successor's inauguration?

Wow.

As far as I know? Trump isn't the President yet! What authority does he have to relieve a general?

“The timing is extremely unusual,” Schwartz said in an interview Friday morning, confirming a memo announcing his ouster that was obtained by The Washington Post.

Oh yeah, we have a definite intelligence leak problem.

Wash Po has not been kind to Trump. Does Trump have friendlies in the IC communities?

I would not call this a Stand-down order. It is a general being relieved of his command. If the CO at the Inauguration is told to Stand Down in the event of violence the SHTF officially.

definition of a Stand- down: a relaxation of status of a military unit or force from an alert or operational posture
www.merriam-webster.com...

originally posted by: skynet2015
a reply to: thesaneone
www.youtube.com...
have at.

The dude was charged as an illegal alien in possession of a firearm and disruption of an official function.

Nothing about an attempted assassination.

originally posted by: banjobrain

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
That's pretty #ing scary.

Schwartz said that he has been swamped with inauguration duties and packing up four decades’ worth of papers and accumulated items, and has not yet been able to inform District officials, including the mayor and the chair of the D.C. Council. Unlike in states, where the governor appoints the National Guard commander, in the District that duty falls to the president.

Schwartz said that he has not been told why he was asked to step down. “I’m a soldier,” he said, noting that he was following orders and has no regrets. “I’m a presidential appointee, therefore the president has the power to remove me.”

What the hell is Obama up too?

I know it is knee jerk thing to blame Obama, but it sound to me like Trump would be more likely to change the person in charge of this, especially considering the way he has replaced other people who have been working it for decades.

True, the report says this:

He said his orders came from the Pentagon but that he doesn’t know who made the decision. It is unclear whether he is part of a larger class of federal workers who have been asked to leave their jobs as a new president takes office.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

The anti-Trump inauguration protesters have held a presser stating they are not interested in a peaceful transition of power.

Let the implications of that sink in for a while. The video is there in the link.

In this press conference of political losers, the demonstrators that will protest at the inauguration had this to say: "We need to stop the peaceful transition of power and stop this kind of fascist government from being in power."

a reply to: thesaneone

Quick someone .
Get trump a purple heart.

He always wanted one. He said so.

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: skynet2015

It's as if the article is purposely written to be vague. People are assuming President Obama has given orders.

It's the Trump transition team issuing orders.

The Army and officials with Trump’s transition team did not immediately respond for comment.

Trump isn't the President yet, how can he issue orders?

Enlighten me?

Do they really allow the incumbent President to chose who will command the National Guard at their successor's inauguration?

Wow.

As far as I know? Trump isn't the President yet! What authority does he have to relieve a general?

He doesn't have authority to relieve any part of the Obama adminstration. Obama is the Commander-in-Chief.

originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: skynet2015

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: Black_Fox
"We have already seen multiple attempts on Trump's life, some aired live and watchable on youtube. "


Hmmm, I cant recall anything like that.

But I imagine since you mentioned it, you can provide links.

Thanks.

There was an incident where secret service rushed him off stage.

there was another incident where he was on stage outside near some airplanes. There were also incidents where he had to be escorted off the free way because of the potential of violent protesters, the footage for that one is from a helicopter. There are a few others where violence breaks out and someone is quickly escorted away. how many each person sees as a credible threat varies from person to person, however, that violence & death have been pursued more than once is undeniable.

The real issue is the effective potential of a stand down order or chaos at the inauguration as a consequence of changing leadership at the last minute.

Protesters= assassins???

Why yes, actually.
Remember the video of a Trump protester saying "People have to die" after Trump won? Lots of protesters have called for killing in regards to Trump winning the election..

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Rosinitiate

The anti-Trump inauguration protesters have held a presser stating they are not interested in a peaceful transition of power.

Let the implications of that sink in for a while. The video is there in the link.

In this press conference of political losers, the demonstrators that will protest at the inauguration had this to say: "We need to stop the peaceful transition of power and stop this kind of fascist government from being in power."

Daddy Soros going to be there with them or are they going to face the 600,000 bikers for Trump alone? roflmao Poor snowflakes......

a reply to: seeker1963

They're the same ones who told us all that Obama would never make it through his first term because we on the right would be unable to tolerate a black president.

I am starting to see their projection at work.

People saying words does not make them an assassin it just makes them idiots with a warped opinion.