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Full Senate passes waiver allowing Mattis to be defense secretary

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posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 04:42 PM
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The U.S. Senate has passed a waiver that will allow Trump nominee for Defense Secretary to take the position.

The House will reportedly vote on Friday.

Retired Gen. James Mattis is the candidate.

He retired from the U.S. Marines in 2013.

A law says retired military people must wait 7 years before taking this position.

The last time this happened was in 1950 I believe, and may have been the only time.


Full Senate passes waiver allowing Mattis to be defense secretary

The Senate on Thursday passed the waiver that will allow retired Gen. James Mattis to serve as defense secretary, which is expected to be considered by the House on Friday.

Current law requires an officer to be out of uniform for seven years before stepping into the civilian defense secretary role. Mattis retired from the Marine Corps in 2013 after more than 40 years of service, meaning Congress will need to approve an exemption to the law for him to serve.

The Senate overwhelmingly passed the waiver by a vote of 81-17, despite objections from some Democrats that the exemption will set a precedent that could harm civilian control of the military.






posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:00 PM
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So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.


The law states he needs a waiver.

They are following the law. He still needs one from Congress.

Good though, Mattis is a great choice.

~Tenth



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.


Not a good start to the Trump regime, let us just ignore the law if it does not suit us! Expect it to be happening a lot in the future under god-Emperor trump. But the little trumpets will not mind.



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce

Why do you think they are ignoring the law?

The law states that in order to serve, he must get a waiver from both the Senate and the House.

They are following exactly what the law says.

~Tenth



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce

But they did it for Truman in 1950 !!!!

But But But



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.


Do you have a similar law in the UK that prevents a retired officer from becoming the Minister of Defence? Do you think this law, which is specific to a single position in the US government, was put in place for the common good, or was it because of political reasons?



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.


The law states he needs a waiver.

They are following the law. He still needs one from Congress.

Good though, Mattis is a great choice.

~Tenth


Okay, that's cool, a waiver is great.

Damn, I'm only 10, but I want to drive. Where do I get my waiver?



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: tothetenthpower

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.


The law states he needs a waiver.

They are following the law. He still needs one from Congress.

Good though, Mattis is a great choice.

~Tenth


Okay, that's cool, a waiver is great.

Damn, I'm only 10, but I want to drive. Where do I get my waiver?



Like the full U.S. Congress would ever see you as that important.




posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:09 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.


Do you have a similar law in the UK that prevents a retired officer from becoming the Minister of Defence? Do you think this law, which is specific to a single position in the US government, was put in place for the common good, or was it because of political reasons?


I'm not debating the actual law, no matter how foolish.

A waiver, is a waiver.

Why doesn't congress grow a pair and repeal the law?



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: Cobaltic1978

If you were at all familiar with how the military works, you should know that you can get a waiver for literally any bureaucratic criteria. This example may be a bit extreme, but it certainly isn't comparable to waiving the legal limit to drive.



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: Cobaltic1978

U can get various waivers especially for farming on the driving issue



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: tothetenthpower

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.


The law states he needs a waiver.

They are following the law. He still needs one from Congress.

Good though, Mattis is a great choice.

~Tenth


Okay, that's cool, a waiver is great.

Damn, I'm only 10, but I want to drive. Where do I get my waiver?



Like the full U.S. Congress would ever see you as that important.





Like I would expect them to. 😀

Congress can't agree on anything anyway, except Russia, China, and War on Terra.

A measure of any society can be determined by the amount of money they spend on killing machines against life saving machines.



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: tothetenthpower

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.


The law states he needs a waiver.

They are following the law. He still needs one from Congress.

Good though, Mattis is a great choice.

~Tenth


Okay, that's cool, a waiver is great.

Damn, I'm only 10, but I want to drive. Where do I get my waiver?



So...your answer is a nonsensical comparison?

Fake outrage towards the Trump admin then?

Got it.

If you can't provide a single reason why he should not be confirmed, outside of ' well they have this stupid law', then yeah, it's fake outrage.

~Tenth



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:17 PM
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Have you SEEN this mattis guy?

id give him whatever the hell he wants man



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.


Do you have a similar law in the UK that prevents a retired officer from becoming the Minister of Defence? Do you think this law, which is specific to a single position in the US government, was put in place for the common good, or was it because of political reasons?


I'm not debating the actual law, no matter how foolish.

A waiver, is a waiver.


And a waiver is legal. The idea that it is 'against the law' in this case is suspicious. Neither the Constitution nor the Federalist Papers agree that Congress can establish a law like this because the constitution says appointments are up to the President. Congress can confirm or deny, but they can;t set qualifications for the position. Here is an in depth analysis of the issue.


Why doesn't congress grow a pair and repeal the law?


Probably because it has only come up once before, in the 1940's. it's not like it's a pressing issue for the body politic. The major point here is that it is NOT "against the law" and Congress has the right to approve a "waiver." Whiners please get over it. You don't have a case.
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posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: tothetenthpower

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So, they're going to ignore the law and give him their blessing?

Nice, let's all ignore the law and to hell with any order.


The law states he needs a waiver.

They are following the law. He still needs one from Congress.

Good though, Mattis is a great choice.

~Tenth


Okay, that's cool, a waiver is great.

Damn, I'm only 10, but I want to drive. Where do I get my waiver?



What an idiotic parallel to attempt to draw.

First you complain that they're ignoring the law and when that's proven to be demonstrably false, you come up with some false equivalence and continue to cling to your indignation.

But, just for poops and giggles, to answer your question: certain states have a waiver that allows someone as young as 13 to legally drive on a farm. So you just need to wait a few more years and you can get your farm license.




posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:23 PM
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This is one cabinet nominee that I agree with. Mattis will be an excellent defense secretary. Sessions is the one I have a problem with.



posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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Well, that's one down and in my opinion the greatest asset DJT could have.
For those of you who know little of "Mad Dog" I would suggest you do a little reading.
This guy is a legend.

Great post X !!!
Outstanding !

Buck
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posted on Jan, 12 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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Rather interesting choice.

On the embedded video that is in the OP's linked article he says he believes that the US army is not strong enough to fend off Russia and China.

Looks like Trump is putting a dollar each way with Russian relations putting a man like him in charge of the military.




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