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originally posted by: Maroboduus
originally posted by: TarzanBeta
When you buy because of your emotions or bias, that does not justify the mortality or the talent of the production. It justifies the creator's decision to make money. That's all.
Don't be dense.
Ignoring the fact that you dont seem to know what mortality means...
If somebody buys music they like, then it DOES justify that artistic input, and the talent of the person who produced it. They made something that somebody else enjoyed enough to buy. They created something that people like, and that brings them joy. Whether or not you personally like it has no bearing on whether it's valid art, or "justified." As if art has to somehow be justified in the first place. That very idea is ridiculous. If people like it enough to buy it, then they have obviously created something worthwhile.
Also, your comment about it needing to improve somebody's life, then saying that just making them feel good doesn't constitute improving their life: that is completely nonsensical and moronic. In what way does music have to improve somebody's life in order to meet your ridiculous standards of validity, if not improving their emotional state? That's an absurd notion. What would you like the music to do? Save them from a buring building? Magically get them a nice house? I mean.... did you even think before you typed that? In what way could music improve someone's life aside from improving their mental and emotional state? Which is, you know... a way of improving somebody's life.
And your completely arbitrary standards for what makes music "justified" are ridiculous as a whole, anyways. It's legacy of usefulness? Tastes change. Styles change. Things get lost to time for various reasons. That doesn't mean that they are any less artistically valid.
You bemoan people's biases, then turn around and project your arbitrary standards (which are based on your own bias) onto everybody else, as if you yourself dictate the terms of artistic validity.
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: 4003fireglo
I love the Belew, Levin, Brueford and of course Fripp lineup..really I love the sounds and textures Belew could create..he taught Zappa stuff
general term music jumped the shark when rap was accepted as a type of music.
Some of the best songs in the world are surprisingly simple and shallow. That is because music isn't a game of bests. It's just what is pleasant and entertaining to your ears.
and dont give me this "oh but the computer does all the work and you press a couple of buttons." composing a song on the computer is the exact same as composing a song on a piano