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4Chan Claims To Have Fabricated Anti-Trump Report As A Hoax

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posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

If the IC can't be trusted, and it sure looks like they are playing politics instead of playing verify the facts, I don't see the US moving in a favorable direction. If I was a conspiracy person, I might think that whomever has been in charge since Bush Sr. has been in charge ever since, and they got really comfortable using the MSM to be the propaganda machine, along with using the credibility of the IC to back stories. Those people (TPTB) seem to not be able to direct Trump yet, and should his tone change greatly in a week, I think we will know why. But then again, that's what a nutty conspiracy guy would say, so never mind.




posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: neformore

So you think this story it true? Or you think that we are wrong for questioning the source?

Please clarify that.



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: neformore

And you do?

Are you now the high arbiter of what is true and what isn't?

Look at how often the press has been caught out falsifying or fudging the way they report on things. Can you honestly say that you know for sure which reports and sources are telling the truth and which aren't, from either side, or even from the set that claim they tell it straight down the middle?



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

Those people (TPTB) seem to not be able to direct Trump yet, and should his tone change greatly in a week, I think we will know why. But then again, that's what a nutty conspiracy guy would say, so never mind.


Ah yes, we have to keep an eye out for if all his hair turns gray in the next couple weeks like Obama's did....




posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Grambler

If the IC can't be trusted, and it sure looks like they are playing politics instead of playing verify the facts, I don't see the US moving in a favorable direction. If I was a conspiracy person, I might think that whomever has been in charge since Bush Sr. has been in charge ever since, and they got really comfortable using the MSM to be the propaganda machine, along with using the credibility of the IC to back stories. Those people (TPTB) seem to not be able to direct Trump yet, and should his tone change greatly in a week, I think we will know why. But then again, that's what a nutty conspiracy guy would say, so never mind.


Well in any event (rain or shine), here's to bread and circuses! At least it's been entertaining this go around. Besides it's just a little pee, he can "shake it off".
edit on 11-1-2017 by Rosinitiate because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: network dude

What I think is that you guys are in trouble.

This story could be true. Such things have happened to people before.

It could, equally, be false in which case its irrelevant.

However, in both cases, now, following all the screaming of fake news, neither side matters, and no one knows for sure.

So when something real happens, what are you going to do?



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Did I claim to be?

I'm asking a serious question here. If you can't trust anyone, who do you trust?



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

This will show the CIA to be willing to leak info and allow fabricated stories to smear trump, many mainstream media outlets willing to peddle it, and many politicians to believe it and shout treason without any proof whatsoever.


Right? The effing CIA had this for months, and just what days ago submitted a report (wasn't it that its supposedly something?), and it took the world a whole what 20 minutes to look at it and rightfully call BS. The video when Mr. CIA came int he brief The Donald, the look on the guys face when he was trying to say whatever he said, must be priceless.



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: neformore

If you can't trust anyone, who do you trust?


Critical Thinking. Common Sense. (Perspectives Based On) Speaks For Itself History. Etc.
edit on 11-1-2017 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Grambler

If the IC can't be trusted, and it sure looks like they are playing politics instead of playing verify the facts, I don't see the US moving in a favorable direction. If I was a conspiracy person, I might think that whomever has been in charge since Bush Sr. has been in charge ever since, and they got really comfortable using the MSM to be the propaganda machine, along with using the credibility of the IC to back stories. Those people (TPTB) seem to not be able to direct Trump yet, and should his tone change greatly in a week, I think we will know why. But then again, that's what a nutty conspiracy guy would say, so never mind.


Well in any event (rain or shine), here's to bread and circuses! At least it's been entertaining this go around. Besides it's just a little pee, he can "shake it off".


You're in a lot of good threads here, so I can't believe you would joke about this dribble. This is a golden opportunity to out the intelligence community, yet we are being showered with jokes instead.















Pee.



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: neformore

So you're giving this Dossier Debacle "story" a 50/50 chance of being real? All your time here, if you can't spot the fakest news when its right in your face, cmon now.




posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: ketsuko

Did I claim to be?

I'm asking a serious question here. If you can't trust anyone, who do you trust?


Honestly, I was asking myself that question in the car this morning.

It is amply obvious that large elements of the government are not trustworthy at present.

i haven't trusted the press for a while.



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:20 PM
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Cant believe hasnt been posted yet.

Btw.
The twitter account that alleged to have sent out the original "fan fiction " is delet.
edit on 11-1-2017 by dashen because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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When you can't trust any supplier of information or goods, there is only one person to trust



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: network dude

What I think is that you guys are in trouble.

This story could be true. Such things have happened to people before.

It could, equally, be false in which case its irrelevant.

However, in both cases, now, following all the screaming of fake news, neither side matters, and no one knows for sure.

So when something real happens, what are you going to do?


Not sure what planet you live on to be able to say "you guys are in trouble", thinking that none of this affects you. If this is BS, and the IC and MSM ran with it, they have officially jumped the shark and need not be trusted again. And if that's the case, we the people (that includes the sooper smart liberals as well as us knuckle dragging right wingers) need to do some restructuring on how we interpret news. Kind of like how most of us have been operating the last 8 years, assuming most of what is said is slanted, and the truth lies between the lines.



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: network dude

What I think is that you guys are in trouble.

This story could be true. Such things have happened to people before.

It could, equally, be false in which case its irrelevant.

However, in both cases, now, following all the screaming of fake news, neither side matters, and no one knows for sure.

So when something real happens, what are you going to do?


I agree it is a real problem. But a couple of points.

First, maybe its just my mistake reading your context, but when you say things like "you guys are in trouble" to me that implies you are not. I would argue that as an obvious consumer of news, you are in the same boat as us.

Secondly, although I agree with you that there is a problem with everyone shouting fake news and not looking into things, you seem to place the blame more with the consumer. I think that it is evident that the media all sides of the political spectrum are the ones that deserve the blame.



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: ketsuko

Did I claim to be?

I'm asking a serious question here. If you can't trust anyone, who do you trust?


If you see the same exact vehicle driving behind two separate reporters (at different locations) within seconds......it's probably fake news.

If you claim Russia hacked the electric grid because an employee got a virus on a computer from watching porn.....it's probably fake news.

If you claim members from Trump's team was secretly flying to Prague, when he in fact has never been there......it's probably fake news.

If you claim Trump enjoys Golden Showers in Russia based on what shoddy evidence has been offered.....You are probably reporting fake news.

I trust a little critical thought with a dash of common sense.



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Are we allowed to talk about Pizza Gate after all this?



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Basically this.

It's why I read a lot of different sources on a thing before I form my own impression.



posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Grambler

If the IC can't be trusted, and it sure looks like they are playing politics instead of playing verify the facts, I don't see the US moving in a favorable direction. If I was a conspiracy person, I might think that whomever has been in charge since Bush Sr. has been in charge ever since, and they got really comfortable using the MSM to be the propaganda machine, along with using the credibility of the IC to back stories. Those people (TPTB) seem to not be able to direct Trump yet, and should his tone change greatly in a week, I think we will know why. But then again, that's what a nutty conspiracy guy would say, so never mind.


Well in any event (rain or shine), here's to bread and circuses! At least it's been entertaining this go around. Besides it's just a little pee, he can "shake it off".


You're in a lot of good threads here, so I can't believe you would joke about this dribble. This is a golden opportunity to out the intelligence community, yet we are being showered with jokes instead.















Pee.


Dude, really?


ETA: Sorry, I missed "Golden" as well.
edit on 11-1-2017 by network dude because: missed the punch line.




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