FBI chief given dossier by John McCain alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Kettu

The gay hating war-loving neocon religious extremist is now a hero in the eyes of the liberals?

What a surprise

I know I'm shocked by this new revelation. Apparently liberals are turning into neo cons can this stuff get any crazier.

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Who was the official and who was the reliable source?

Allegedly, a former Mi6 op.

Portions of the dossier outlining supposed ties between Trump’s team and Russian government agents started to surface over the summer based partly on information from a former British intelligence agent who was working for anti-Trump political operatives. The partisan operatives circulated portions of the documents to federal officials and reporters, including to ABC News, both before and after the 2016 election.

Eventually, Republican Sen. John McCain received a copy and forwarded it directly to FBI Director James Comey.

ABC

Should we "trust them" on that?

Trust? No, not blindly, but it's certainly worth looking into very closely.

a reply to: dragonridr


This stuff has been getting crazier since the nineteen eighties . The system has a lot to hide and will do anything to cover up what's going on, anyone with power to stop it will have a very hard time. This is a forgotten video from the eighties, the system to supress the type of news which it mentions has got far more sophisticated. www.youtube.com...

a reply to: spiritualzombie
This will be interesting to see what comes of this, but the fact that McCain (apparently) felt a need to hire a private investigator to try and connect dots from Trump to Moscow, and the fact that McCain really is a RINO and seems to conduct himself in ways that often times are not in the best interest of his claimed party, it causes me to be on alert for garbage coming from this investigation of his.

Ever since Trump earned the presidency over Clinton, there have been myriad people trying to sabotage his transition into the office (the current administration) or to constantly and consistently cast doubt on his fitment for the office (Democrats, some Republicans, Hollywood, the MSM, etc. [possibly including McCain, now]). With such an obviously concerted effort to stain his presidency before it even starts, one must be suspect to nearly EVERYTHING that is said in a negative light about Trump until the evidence is proven and made known.

Other than that, claims are just claims, and it's funny how often claims like this just peter out in the wind once an event happens (like the sexual harassment claims against Trump just disappeared after he won).

So, like with many things in life, we should wait and see what comes of this.

I believe this is the full report for anyone who's interested...


US Presidential-Elect Activities in Russia and compromising relationship with the Kremlin
Link: www.documentcloud.org...


Here's a little summary about it:
What We Know and Don’t Know About the Trump-Russia Dossier
www.nytimes.com...

The memos contain unsubstantiated claims that Russian officials tried to obtain influence over Mr. Trump by preparing to blackmail him with sex tapes and bribe him with business deals. They also claim that the Trump campaign met with Russian operatives to discuss the Russians’ hacking and their leaking of emails and documents from the Democratic National Committee and from Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John D. Podesta.

Further information from Newsweek:


Trump, Russian Spies and the Infamous ‘Golden Shower Memos’
Link: www.newsweek.com...

...repackaged and expanded on by U.S. intelligence, the new report adds heft to what some fear explains Trump’s otherwise inexplicable fondness for the Kremlin, perhaps America’s leading antagonist: According to the report’s anonymous sources, “Trump's unorthodox behavior in Russia over the years provided the authorities with enough embarrassing material on the now-Republican presidential candidate to be able to blackmail him if they so wished.”

Blackmail would elevate the story from tawdry sex to national security. And the report underscored what U.S. intelligence had been saying for weeks, with far less effect: Trump “and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his democratic and other political rivals.”

a reply to: spiritualzombie

LOL

I think this is already proven fake as of this morning.

Lots of people got trolled again including CNN etc.

You mean this?

Golden Shower Gate: 4chan Falsely Takes Credit For Trump News
www.ibtimes.com...

The 4chan posts make no specific reference to any details of the false information and there is nothing to suggest the 4chan user made up a story that appeared in the intelligence dossier, not even the outlandish report that Trump hired “a number of prostitutes to perform a ‘golden showers’ (urination) show in front of him.”

Further, the four posts in question from the 4chan user were made in November 2016. The memos published by BuzzFeed were circulated well before the posts were made.

Additionally, the author of the memo is a former British intelligence agent with Russian contacts, and the intelligence community considers the author and his sources to be reliable, according to a report from the New York Times.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

The CNN firestorm is forefront right now.

They were caught.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
FBI chief given dossier by John McCain alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts
Link: www.theguardian.com...

Senator John McCain passed documents to the FBI director, James Comey, last month alleging secret contacts between the Trump campaign and Moscow and that Russian intelligence had personally compromising material on the president-elect himself.

The material, which has been seen by the Guardian, is a series of reports on Trump’s relationship with Moscow. They were drawn up by a former western counter-intelligence official, now working as a private consultant.

One report, dated June 2016, claims that the Kremlin has been cultivating, supporting and assisting Trump for at least five years, with the aim of encouraging “splits and divisions in western alliance”.

What to make of this... well, we know Trump is a confirmed fraud and a narcissist, sexual assaulter and terrible human being. We also know he called on Russia to hack his opponent to help him win an election... We also know he refused to release his tax records. And we know he has continually rejected American intelligence. He's the most combative and divisive president-elect ever...

All signs of a great president? Or possibly the worst president ever? I guess time will tell... Maybe the first step to Make America Great Again is to start accepting the truth and recognize Trump for the fraud he is.

What a load of crap.

Vet it and prove it's correct before ever even *talking* to someone internally let alone externally is SOP.

If true, all of these idiots should be fired.

And yes, I know how this is supposed to work - firsthand.

My group would have NEVER been involved in this type of crap.

It's disheartening and demoralizing to me.

Time to clean house...

a reply to: xuenchen

If its a hoax prove it. The 4chan excuse doesn't hold.

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originally posted by: Gothmog

FBI chief given dossier by John McCain

Thats the answer , right there. Comey and McCain in the same sentence.
Pitifully UNBELIEVABLE
Comey is a sellout and McCain is an utter failure. McCain is the Republican Party's Hillary Clinton

Both of them. Terrible. Low energy, just terrible

lol

McCain should have his clearance pulled....

You can't kick him out of the Senate, he just won another 6 yr term (thanks AZ).. but you pull his clearance.. he loses access to INTEL that he feels fine leaking anonymously to the MSM...

Fade away SONGBIRD... fade away....

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: xuenchen

If its a hoax prove it.

I just did.

Or did you?

a reply to: xuenchen

Where's the proof of a hoax? It's a report put together by a former British spy and intelligence gatherer, which circulated in Washington... and has now leaked to the public. Nobody in the public knows whats true or false.

This is not fake news. No one at CNN, NBC or elsewhere is saying this report is true or false. They are simply reporting on the existence of a report and a briefing that was given to Trump and Obama.

The report has not been confirmed or denied as truth by U.S. intelligence. It's simply... out there now.


How a Sensational, Unverified Dossier Became a Crisis for Donald Trump
mobile.nytimes.com...

Seven months ago, a respected former British spy named Christopher Steele won a contract to build a file on Donald J. Trump’s ties to Russia. Last week, the explosive details — unsubstantiated accounts of frolics with prostitutes, real estate deals that were intended as bribes and coordination with Russian intelligence of the hacking of Democrats — were summarized for Mr. Trump in an appendix to a top-secret intelligence report.

Mr. Simpson hired Mr. Steele, a former British intelligence officer with whom he had worked before. Mr. Steele, in his early 50s, had served undercover in Moscow in the early 1990s and later was the top expert on Russia at the London headquarters of Britain’s spy service, MI6. When he stepped down in 2009, he started his own commercial intelligence firm, Orbis Business Intelligence.

Steele has since fled his home as of Wednesday morning...

The Telegraph said Steele left his home on Wednesday morning as it became clear his name would become public and that he feared a backlash from Moscow.

The story of the Trump dossier: secret sources, an airport rendezvous, and John McCain
The other director, Burrows, refused to “confirm or deny” that Orbis had produced the report.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Steele repeatedly declined requests for interviews in recent weeks, with an intermediary telling the newspaper the subject was “too hot”.

Link: www.theguardian.com...

So that's where it currently stands...

a reply to: spiritualzombie

They are "allegations" with not a shred of proof. This is a hoax, just like the Obama administration, the DNC, and RINOS like Mccain trying to claim Russia hacked the DNC and affected the elections...

It has been proven these are all false allegations trying to incite a conflict/war with Russia. First, the left-wing media claims that "17 U.S. intelligence agencies agreed" and the "intelligent assessment" shows it was only 3, and all they have for evidence is "we think we know what's on the minds of the Russians". There is no concrete evidence, and as xuenchen explains this has been proven a hoax.

In a story that is getting more surreal by the minute, a post on 4Chan now claims that the infamous "golden showers" scene in the unverified 35-page dossier, allegedly compiled by a British intelligence officer, was a hoax and fabricated by a member of the chatboard as "fanfiction", then sent to Rick Wilson, who proceeded to send it to the CIA, which then put it in their official classified intelligence report on the election.
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You're free to believe that. I think I'll stick with whatever U.S. Intelligence concludes. If you have solid evidence of a hoax you may want to provide that intel to FBI, CIA, DNI, and NSA.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

You mean the 17 intelligence agencies which all agree as claimed by the MSM and the claims made by some DNC officials which after the intelligence assessment came out it was known that it was only 3 agencies?...

And do you mean the same type of intelligence assessment which says they cannot provide any actual evidence at all and hence rely on "just trust us" type of "intelligence assessment?...

a reply to: JacKatMtn

McCain should not be a Senator. How in the world did he win another 6 years?