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Trump to name son-in-law Jared Kushner as special adviser

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posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

This isn't a partisan issue. It's about US law.

If you have enough money, you can pay an attorney to argue anything!




posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: BigTrumpFan

He's taking a legitimate, budgeted, federal job, Senior Advisor to the President. The fact that he won't be able to take a salary/paycheck proves that he knows that his appointment is illegal.





Take a deep breath, step back, and try and not let hatred for Trump lead you around by the nose.
Kushner is actually a welcome addition even for Democrats. He has bi partisan support because he is moderate and has shown he is capable of influencing Trump.

Here is what ant-Trump mayor De Blasio had to say:

Mr. Kushner’s appointment was greeted with relief by some liberals, including Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York, who views him as moderating influence in a Trump West Wing dominated by hard-line conservatives. “I respect him a lot,” Mr. de Blasio said when asked about Mr. Kushner on Monday. “I’ve known him for years and find him to be a very reasonable person.”


The fact is that, as I posted earlier, the law you are pushing has been bypassed many many times. If you are such a hard liner on enforcing every law then you would have been screaming for Hillary to be indicted. She broke a law but was let off because it had been decades since anyone had been indicted for breaking it.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: BigTrumpFan



The President himself is not an agency.


No, he's not. He's an employee of the federal government. He is the head of his agency The Office of the President, which is overseen by its parent agency, the federal government.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: windword

I wonder how they are paid?

Edit..I see it's an unpaid position??


It's not an unpaid position. Karl Rove got paid, so did Valarie Jarrett. The reason Kushner won't get paid is because its the law, his appointment is illegal. If his appointed wasn't illegal, his salary wouldn't be an issue.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: BigTrumpFan
Jared is taking an unofficial advisor role. It is not paid and is therefore not a job nor a position. Heck, I can appoint my dog as an advisor if I wanted to.


In other words, he's entering the White House the same way Obama had his Mother-in-law live in. Just as a family member, to keep the President company.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

This isn't about Hillary. This is about our current President Elect flagrantly ignoring conflict of interest concerns, flaunting ethics concerns and disrespecting the laws that he's about to swear to protect.



This isn't about what a nice guy his son in law, it's about blatant conflict of interest and nepotism.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: network dude

So you had no problem with Chelsea being on the payroll of the Clinton Foundation? Or how about when the Right took issue with Bernie having members of his family on his campaign staff? You didn't take issue with that?


hey hey hey.....it's fine for republicans, but not democrats....let's keep the hypocrisy intact please.... Obama cabinet member vetting had to be done before a senate hearing was held for the post....republican cabinet members to be pushed threw without vetting being done. it's different for the republicans....let's get with the program here, geez



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5
Trump's lawyers are neither "experts" nor "objective"...they are paid to do what he tells them to.


All lawyers are hired to "find the interpretation" that suits the clients' position.

And if they don't, they are fired, and new lawyers are chosen to replace them.

Nobody pays lawyers to tell them what they can't do. That's the opposition's job.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

This isn't about Hillary. This is about our current President Elect flagrantly ignoring conflict of interest concerns, flaunting ethics concerns and disrespecting the laws that he's about to swear to protect.



This isn't about what a nice guy his son in law, it's about blatant conflict of interest and nepotism.



No it's about a law which is regularly bypassed that you want vigorously enforced because you don't like Trump. The Hillary comparison is quite valid because it underlines that your position on upholding the letter of the law shifts based on who you want a law applied for or against.

I just thought it would be good to underline for the record so we could all understand the real motives of your argument. You stated that your motivation for your argument was a legal one, and I have shown that it is not.
I think this is one that you will end up being disappointed on.
edit on 10/1/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

This isn't a partisan issue. It's about US law.

If you have enough money, you can pay an attorney to argue anything!



Lawyers are not supermen. They cannot argue above the law. If someone committed murder, no lawyer can save him.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:46 AM
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The President can appoint anyone as advisor, even his kids, and that's nobody's damn business. Only paid cabinet positions are subject to nepotism law.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

This isn't about Hillary. This is about our current President Elect flagrantly ignoring conflict of interest concerns, flaunting ethics concerns and disrespecting the laws that he's about to swear to protect.



This isn't about what a nice guy his son in law, it's about blatant conflict of interest and nepotism.



The Hillary comparison is quite valid


No...It's not..

A conservative org sued Hillary Clinton as First Lady saying that her advocacy for Health Care reform under her hubby Pres. Bill was in violation of the anti-Nepotism law.

The court said the law did not apply because she was not operating in an official capacity, did not hold a job title, and causes were tradition of First Ladies.

So for it to be anywhere near Apples to Apples...Jared Kushner would have to marry Trump and he couldn't hold an official appointed position of Advisor.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: BigTrumpFan
The President can appoint anyone as advisor, even his kids, and that's nobody's damn business. Only paid cabinet positions are subject to nepotism law.


That is incorrect.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: BigTrumpFan

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

This isn't a partisan issue. It's about US law.

If you have enough money, you can pay an attorney to argue anything!



Lawyers are not supermen. They cannot argue above the law. If someone committed murder, no lawyer can save him.


tell that to OJ...

Waiting for your posts to have more substance.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: BigTrumpFan

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

This isn't a partisan issue. It's about US law.

If you have enough money, you can pay an attorney to argue anything!



Lawyers are not supermen. They cannot argue above the law. If someone committed murder, no lawyer can save him.


tell that to OJ...

Waiting for your posts to have more substance.


No evidence OJ murdered anyone.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: BigTrumpFan
The President can appoint anyone as advisor, even his kids, and that's nobody's damn business. Only paid cabinet positions are subject to nepotism law.


That is incorrect.


The law does not care what you think.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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The President is not an agency, or else he would not be able to appoint his brother as a cook in the White House.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

This isn't about Hillary. This is about our current President Elect flagrantly ignoring conflict of interest concerns, flaunting ethics concerns and disrespecting the laws that he's about to swear to protect.



This isn't about what a nice guy his son in law, it's about blatant conflict of interest and nepotism.



The Hillary comparison is quite valid


No...It's not..

A conservative org sued Hillary Clinton as First Lady saying that her advocacy for Health Care reform under her hubby Pres. Bill was in violation of the anti-Nepotism law.

The court said the law did not apply because she was not operating in an official capacity, did not hold a job title, and causes were tradition of First Ladies.

So for it to be anywhere near Apples to Apples...Jared Kushner would have to marry Trump and he couldn't hold an official appointed position of Advisor.


Please read the thread back as I you've confused the point in the converstaion.
Your response is not related to the point made.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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Well looks like Israel will have their tool in to tell Trump what to do when it comes to Israel. Russia already has their tool along with China their tool is Chao the former SOL under Bush that helped ship all those jobs to China. For someone that's America first he sure surrounds himself with people who put America second.



posted on Jan, 10 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: BigTrumpFan

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

This isn't a partisan issue. It's about US law.

If you have enough money, you can pay an attorney to argue anything!



Lawyers are not supermen. They cannot argue above the law. If someone committed murder, no lawyer can save him.


LOL.....O.J. Simpson!



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