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The destruction of the Catholic and Christian church

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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 09:39 PM
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Welcome. I started this thread so that I can use my experience to bring down the belief system of the church. It would be too much to give in this single first statement of the thread so this is what I will do. I can prove that any aspect of Christian theology is wrong, misinterpreted, and I will supply a correct version of the theological idea. So please ask away. Please begin with questions related to how I have this information, my back story and some basis theological questions. I am not here to insult anybody. I have been given the knowledge of what I speak. I will answer any questions on the subject. I think that it will be better for the scientific and technological advancement of human society without the churches veil in the comprehension of existence and the limits it places. Please allow this to be a respectful debate that encourages asking 'how' and 'why' because I want people to have a complete understanding so that it can have the maximum effect. Now, please begin, and be respectful.




posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: Blue2K4

OK I'll bite. where did you get this information?

more importantly what is it?

why did you not include muslim and other religions?



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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Can you explain why you think your interpretations are any different or better than the aforementioned ones?



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 09:52 PM
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Do you think its just Christianity or are all religions wrong?

Why even when I dont drink before bed do I feel the need to get up and pee during the night?

I appreciate the 2nd question isnt related to the topic at hand but I figure if you have all the answers to a 2000 year old theology that have somehow escaped everyone else you must know pretty much everything



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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While I am also of the opinion that Christian or any other church is more destructive then good to the Human race, I have to mention that the absence of religion is in our distant future as the human race will develop naturally and is not something that can be done with force/reason/etc... a lot of people today mistakenly view the alternative as the complete lack of any morals, but it does not have to be that way. It really comes down to fear. People chose to associate themselves with religious establishments 1) because of fear of death (they would rather believe there is an afterlife). What if I told you there can be spirituality, morals and afterlife with no religion. And 2) people are afraid of being responsible for their own actions (they would rather have someone imaginary responsible for that which happens to them then face the idea that they (or even their higher selves) are in control). The same goes for the need of governments.Fear rules the world at the moment. As each one developes over time, this will not be the case, but in terms of cosmologic evolution, by our measures it's a very long natural process. Forcing it yeilds no good llike they tried with communism (an idea which also belongs in the future for the more developed).



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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By all means, please show us the way great leader. Sorry I have no questions, just faith in what I believe and the natural order of things to come. Much like whatever you are about to say requires an element of faith.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: Blue2K4

Hi,

Are you a follower of any religion?

kind regards,

bally



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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So where is your answers ..did the pee question frig you up ?



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: Blue2K4

I'll play...

I've seen these posts a few times before...

Who or what was the "god" of abraham?




posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:15 PM
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originally posted by: Blue2K4
Welcome. I started this thread so that I can use my experience to bring down the belief system of the church. It would be too much to give in this single first statement of the thread so this is what I will do. I can prove that any aspect of Christian theology is wrong, misinterpreted, and I will supply a correct version of the theological idea. So please ask away. Please begin with questions related to how I have this information, my back story and some basis theological questions. I am not here to insult anybody. I have been given the knowledge of what I speak. I will answer any questions on the subject. I think that it will be better for the scientific and technological advancement of human society without the churches veil in the comprehension of existence and the limits it places. Please allow this to be a respectful debate that encourages asking 'how' and 'why' because I want people to have a complete understanding so that it can have the maximum effect. Now, please begin, and be respectful.


So I take it you can explain away the most documented human in world history
Didnt exist?
Figment of a persons imagination? Multiple persons??
Jesus didnt teach ANYTHING He was purported to have taught???

How can this be respectful when you show others no respect
How can you, a unidentified person on ats know what I guarantee smarter, more learned people have studied in depth for 2 thousand years

Yes, christianity will die out, the authorities intend to put christians to the sword, no surprise there, nothing new, it was written 2 millennia ago



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: Blue2K4

What are you an Islamist who wants to attack the Christian religion? What about all religions? They all have blood on their hands from the past and the present! They all judge and condemn those who don't follow their beliefs. They're all hypocrites and their leaders all take advantage of using their followers donations to better their own lives.

"You shall not kill," yet we pray for our soldiers safety as they go into battle to kill God's creations? How many religions make women servants of men? Have you ever seen women as priests in the Catholic religion? How about enslaving women and forcing them to wear burqas and hijabs in the Islamic religion?

Religion, with all its faults, justifiable killings and numerous hypocrisies, do you really think it was created and influenced by a loving God??



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Blue2K4
Welcome. I started this thread so that I can use my experience to bring down the belief system of the church. It would be too much to give in this single first statement of the thread so this is what I will do. I can prove that any aspect of Christian theology is wrong, misinterpreted, and I will supply a correct version of the theological idea. So please ask away. Please begin with questions related to how I have this information, my back story and some basis theological questions. I am not here to insult anybody. I have been given the knowledge of what I speak. I will answer any questions on the subject. I think that it will be better for the scientific and technological advancement of human society without the churches veil in the comprehension of existence and the limits it places. Please allow this to be a respectful debate that encourages asking 'how' and 'why' because I want people to have a complete understanding so that it can have the maximum effect. Now, please begin, and be respectful.


So I take it you can explain away the most documented human in world history
Didnt exist?
Figment of a persons imagination? Multiple persons??
Jesus didnt teach ANYTHING He was purported to have taught???

How can this be respectful when you show others no respect
How can you, a unidentified person on ats know what I guarantee smarter, more learned people have studied in depth for 2 thousand years

Yes, christianity will die out, the authorities intend to put christians to the sword, no surprise there, nothing new, it was written 2 millennia ago



How can you guarantee that unidentifed people are smarter and more learned then anyone else? Bit of a hypocritical point of view, don't you think?



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: Velatropa24

There can be spirituality and morals without religion, humans are born with empathy for one another it is part of human nature. It helps our species survive.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: Velatropa24

There can be spirituality and morals without religion, humans are born with empathy for one another it is part of human nature. It helps our species survive.


Absolutely agree. The point I make is that the critical mass of people drawing that conclusion is very far from being reached at the moment.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: Blue2K4

Why does anyone have to ask you those questions first??? Why not just say them??? You're asking people to simply ask you the very same questions you told them to ask. What's the point in that???

That alone makes me not want to listen to anything you have to say....



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: Blue2K4

i has a better idea - why dont you start with your one strongest argument ?



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 11:24 PM
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Do you find yourself important?

Do you find yourself better than anyone else ?

Where are the answers ?



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Do you think its just Christianity or are all religions wrong?

Why even when I dont drink before bed do I feel the need to get up and pee during the night?

I appreciate the 2nd question isnt related to the topic at hand but I figure if you have all the answers to a 2000 year old theology that have somehow escaped everyone else you must know pretty much everything



Well played!!

He should have said:

"I'm looking for some sheep who will hang on my every word as I make a bunch of BS up. Any takers??



posted on Jan, 9 2017 @ 12:05 AM
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originally posted by: Velatropa24

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Blue2K4
Welcome. I started this thread so that I can use my experience to bring down the belief system of the church. It would be too much to give in this single first statement of the thread so this is what I will do. I can prove that any aspect of Christian theology is wrong, misinterpreted, and I will supply a correct version of the theological idea. So please ask away. Please begin with questions related to how I have this information, my back story and some basis theological questions. I am not here to insult anybody. I have been given the knowledge of what I speak. I will answer any questions on the subject. I think that it will be better for the scientific and technological advancement of human society without the churches veil in the comprehension of existence and the limits it places. Please allow this to be a respectful debate that encourages asking 'how' and 'why' because I want people to have a complete understanding so that it can have the maximum effect. Now, please begin, and be respectful.


So I take it you can explain away the most documented human in world history
Didnt exist?
Figment of a persons imagination? Multiple persons??
Jesus didnt teach ANYTHING He was purported to have taught???

How can this be respectful when you show others no respect
How can you, a unidentified person on ats know what I guarantee smarter, more learned people have studied in depth for 2 thousand years

Yes, christianity will die out, the authorities intend to put christians to the sword, no surprise there, nothing new, it was written 2 millennia ago



How can you guarantee that unidentifed people are smarter and more learned then anyone else? Bit of a hypocritical point of view, don't you think?


Hmm, great question
Concise and immediate response from me

Go read the opening thread, common sense indicates the OP is playing at games, standard click bait fodder
Throw in their history on the site and, well figure it out yourself

I have a prophecy
This thread is going to go downhill quickly and the OP will lose peoples respect just as fast (well maybe not around here)



posted on Jan, 9 2017 @ 12:06 AM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Blue2K4

i has a better idea - why dont you start with your one strongest argument ?


That was their strongest argument




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