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Meat consumption ban is mandatory - necessary temperatures to eliminate BSE pathogens

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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
You know some peoples bodies process the nutrients out of meat more efficiently than through supplements and vegetable substitute.

I have no problem with people making the choice to not eat meat, every person has the right to make that choice...

You are not trying to change peoples minds your trying to troll people by scaring them into a change they may or may not want.

All life is risk, stepping into the bath tub is a risk... life is disease and death, all we can do is mitigate the risk till death takes us.

Also coming from a meat eating family, by your posting nobody in my family should live past about 30... but the trend in both sides of the family is long healthy lives... eating meat, smoking cigars and drinking.

I think Ill stick to the family tradition


That's exactly my point. Your "traditions" are archaic and dangerous.

There is a fine line with tradition and obsolescence.

We evolved, get with the program.




posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: supermilkman


I'm not pushing some vegetarian agenda


Come off it. It's obvious you are. ESPECIALLY when you say things like "Meat consumption ban is mandatory" when in fact, its just your vegan opinion.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: supermilkman

Do you know what incubation periods mean? It means that the symptoms to an infection sometimes doesn't show up until decades later. Some chemicals have almost immediate incubation (i.e. as soon as food as consumed or prepared) some take years before their symptoms start showing.

Pick up a chemistry book.
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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: supermilkman

Yeah, we evolved to eat meat AND vegetables.

Try learning something, instead of pushing your vegan agenda.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: supermilkman

Incubation period

Incubation period is the time elapsed between exposure to a pathogenic organism, a chemical or radiation, and when symptoms and signs are first apparent. In a typical infectious disease, incubation period signifies the period taken by the multiplying organism to reach a threshold necessary to produce symptoms in the host.


In some diseases, as depicted in this diagram, latent period is shorter than incubation period. A person can transmit infection without showing any signs of the disease. Such infection is called subclinical infection.
While latent or latency period may be synonymous, a distinction is sometimes made between incubation period, the period between infection and clinical onset of the disease, and latent period, the time from infection to infectiousness. Which is shorter depends on the disease. A person may be a carrier of a disease, such as Streptococcus in the throat, without exhibiting any symptoms. Depending on the disease, the person may or may not be contagious during the incubation period. - wikipedia

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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

You guys are not looking at things from chemistry-biology point of view.

I swear it's like you guys were born yesterday.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: supermilkman

Got it skip everything and insult people...

Great way to present an argument...

I would be willing to discuss it with you but, your not interested in that... just childish attacks on anyone that has a differing view point.

Peace



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Pick up a chemistry book.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

Facts aren't feelings.

Quarantining is a necessary evil.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: supermilkman

Again with the insults. I guess not eating meat makes you a grumpy human being.

On another note. I really enjoyed my dinner today.
Ground up cow, ground up pig, onions, tomatoes, bread crumbs, eggs, a few herbs and spices. All mixed together, fried in little portions and served between a bun. It was wonderful.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: supermilkman

Not at all: I don't like the taste of rat.

Squirrel now, now there is a tasty treat! My son loves to squirrel hunt.

Mostly what I get from your thread is: Draconian laws of a nanny state are a good thing.

Many here, including me, disagree with that assessment. One of the most scary things to ever hear is "We're from the government and we're here to help."

Governments want to give me guidelines, I've no issues with that.

Government wants to tell me what I can or can not eat, or what I can or can not drink, they can go to hell.

Banning all meat for consumption is a pipe dream for meat haters in any case. It'll never happen. Too much demand and profit to be made.

Also, as mentioned before: meat consumption is a important niche in the environment. First has been the domestication of many animals. If you think all those cows are going to turn into some sort of wild cow that can fend for itself, you'll be sadly mistaken (maybe I should have said "misteaken"). There are some animals that have their wild counter parts (turkey and geese.....and wild turkey is another thing we hunt here, mmmm mmm! good eating), some pigs have shown to easily go back to wild boar status, however, many other meat animals will not.

Banning the consumption of meat would mean the end of hunting. For several animals that are hunted for their meat, like White Tail Deer where where I live, conservation is practiced (IE to keep them from being hunted to extinction). However, with no hunters, and leave no doubt, they've been hunted for literally TENS of THOUSANDS of years, their populations would grow....and grow.....and grow....with no where near the amount of food they would need to sustain their populations. So they end up starving and dying off.

Humans have been eating meat for around 2.5 million years now. Of course we were not like the humans of today, but it has been going on for a very long time.

If evolution decides humans will not eat meat anymore, then something will happen that will change it. I doubt very much it will be politicians and activists though.
Could be climate change. Could be a pandemic, could be a plethora of things. But I highly doubt it will because of someone with some paper and a pen.




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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: supermilkman

Who said anything about feelings, you have failed in about every possible way to articulate an argument...

You have insulted pretty much everyone in the thread with a differing view point... and tried to use shock to change people.

If I were grading this as a persuasive argument, this would be an F... I didn't see much of anything to talk up the benefits, you ignored my point that some people process the nutrients out of meat more efficiently... Just fear, smug attitude and shock seem to be all that you have in your quiver.

Hence my opinion you are just here to stroke your own ego, by telling yourself over and over how superior you are...

So cheers enjoy yourself.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:17 PM
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Second Reminder...


Go After the Ball, Not the Player!

Quit the bickering....discuss the topic and respect the opinion of others.........You are responsible for your own posts.
Posting Bans may be given out if members continue to bicker and insult each other.


and, as always:

Do NOT reply to this post!!



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: eriktheawful

Squirrel?

You yanks and your weird food.

(What does it taste like?)



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: supermilkman

Typical BSE incubation period

BSE has a long incubation period, of 2.5 to 5 years, usually affecting adult cattle at a peak age onset of four to five years...
...Symptoms are not seen immediately in cattle due to the diseases’ extremely long incubation period.[15] - wikipedia -



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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: supermilkman

Typical BSE incubation period

BSE has a long incubation period, of 2.5 to 5 years, usually affecting adult cattle at a peak age onset of four to five years. -




So?

It only has an incubation period in an animal that has it. If the animal doesn't have it, then there's no incubation for BSE in that animal.
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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:22 PM
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Kuru

kuru’s long incubation period of anywhere from 10 to over 50 years... - wikipedia

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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: supermilkman

Kuru

kuru’s long incubation period of anywhere from 10 to over 50 years... - wikipedia


I guess you didn't read this part of your own source.


It is now widely accepted that kuru was transmitted among members of the Fore tribe of Papua New Guinea via funerary cannibalism.

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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: eriktheawful

Squirrel?

You yanks and your weird food.

(What does it taste like?)


Depends upon who you ask.

For me it tastes like rabbit. Some has said it tastes like chicken.

Of course some people think rabbit taste like chicken, heh.


Snake meat: to me that taste like chicken, but may have been because of how it was prepared: breaded and fried.

Best "beef" meat I've ever eaten was water buffalo in Bangkok, Thailand. Just has a much more rich flavor than regular beef. Have to cook it right though, or it ends up as tough as leather!



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:29 PM
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Mad cow disease may have 30 year incubation period
www.mercola.com...

The findings of the inquiry into a cluster of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) cases -- the human version of mad cow disease -- suggest the fatal disease has an average incubation period of 30 years and may claim thousands or tens of thousands more victims.

The inquiry report into five deaths in the English village of Queniborough, Leicestershire, blamed specific butchering methods for contamination of meat with bovine brain and estimated an incubation period of the disease between 10 and 16 years.

But Professor John Collinge, a member of the Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee (SEAC), which advises the government on mad cow disease or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), told BBC Radio: "For me the main finding from this report is that the significant exposure appears to pre-date 1985. - Mercola







 
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