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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: loam
Don't be absurd.
Almost everyone is sure it was the Russians. Including Lord trump.
There are some diehards but there always are
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Tardacus
after admitting that it is unlikely that they would actually be able to find or see any direct evidence of a hack, 4 months later they say this:
That's a nope. That was a bulls# "rumor" (or out and out lie) Bret Baier tried to push election week. Picked up by the likes of Jim Hoft (The Gateway Pundit), IWB and Pamela Gellar. Baier's likely sources were Giuliani and Kallstrom. He walked back part of the same report within 24 hours. He didn't bother to clean up the rest of his mess.
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
originally posted by: desert
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
I always thought it was strange that the "illegal and/or immoral behavior" of the RNC was never brought up.
Politics is nasty business, and the GOP have been masters at it for decades. No one should believe that the GOP are somehow above the fray. Opposition research is a dirty game in politics. I'm quite sure the GOP also had their hands full with their constellation of candidates. Rance Priebus ultimately got his reward in the Trump administration.... that's politics.
What I object to with Russia is the fact that they would meddle in the election (which is how we get our government!), and they did. The report also mentioned another time when they recruited a Dem activist to provide info on Jimmy Carter campaign. Putin knows this crap happens, he does want a better US relation, and he hated Hillary, but now we are stuck with someone who Putin knows will go beyond "trust but verify" to kissing his Kremlin keister. What is good for Putin may not be good for America.
Yes, they meddled, but IMO they didn't have to work that hard. We had primed the pump ourselves. It may end up being Nikita was right when he said the USSR would bury us.
Wage war with Russia over this? That's absurd for anyone to say.
At its height in the ’50s and ’60s, the CCF sponsored sophisticated, cosmopolitan magazines such as Preuves in France, Hiwar in Egypt, Quest in India, Mundo Nuevo in Spain and Latin America, and Encounter in London. Mundo Nuevo was especially influential, publishing leftist writers of the generation of the “boom” in Latin American letters (like Carlos Fuentes and Gabriel García Márquez) alongside international authors like Susan Sontag and Harold Pinter. Still, the CIA felt free to nix articles and exercise prior review. “Brand America’s sales team,” writes Whitney, “thought little of fostering cultural freedom through routine acts of censorship.”
It still remains that the only thing prosecutable here is the crimes exposed in the leaked emails, and potentially the murder of seth rich.
Fruit of the poisonous tree is a legal metaphor in the United States used to describe evidence that is obtained illegally. The logic of the terminology is that if the source (the "tree") of the evidence or evidence itself is tainted, then anything gained (the "fruit") from it is tainted as well.
originally posted by: loam
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
The more I think about it, the more disturbed I become.
Nearly all pretense is being dropped by the left, the government and by the MSM.
We are in a world of trouble, imo.
When political beliefs are challenged, a person’s brain becomes active in areas that govern personal identity and emotional responses to threats, USC researchers find